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Costco Batteries

I have been touting Motorcraft batteries here for years. The truck came with a replacement set of Motorcrafts, and were lasting and lasting. Six-plus years so far.

Recently, I've been aware that the reserve capacity of mine was dwindling due to sulphation, so I've been doing some research into replacements. We're off on a road trip to Oregon at the end of the month, and I sure don't need that kind of trouble on the road!

Local stealer wants $119.95 each for the 850CCA's that ours need.

Costco has a Group 65, 850CCA battery for $75.99. Hmmm, think I at least ought give it a look, as the on-line reviews have it top-rated, especially considering their absolute no-hassle three-year money-back guarantee.

Grab a shopping cart and remove my driver's side and take it into the tire shop. Roll over to the battery rack and pull down one of their finest #4's to do a comparison. Looks pretty close! I can always just go re-install mine if it's not the same.

Hauled it over to the counter to take a closer look. The guy says, "Johnson Controls". Set them side-by-side on the counter and both of us look REAL carefully. Plastic parts are all from the same mold. Period! They are identical! Even the subtle parting lines on the carrying straps. Even faint, hardly noticeable stuff is identical. Though we didn't have a scale, they felt like they weighed the same, too.

The only part that is different is the sticker! Though in the same place, it shows different brand names.

I am now convinced that they ARE identical, capacity-wise as well, so I bought one and took it out to install it.

The guys in the store allowed me to use my DVM on their selection to find two that were exactly matched, and I repeated the entire exercise a few minutes later for the other side.

Bottom line is: Costco saved me about $90 today, and I'm FIRMLY convinced that I have exactly the same batteries I would have gotten at Ford.

I'm open to a critique on this, but you better come armed with more than hearsay. Like you better personally work at the Johnson Controls factory where both these batteries are made, and you probably ought to have photos of the differences. Knowing Costco's reputation of not cutting any corners on their house-branded stuff, I suspect they don't allow any less lead to be used in the ones vended to them.

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pretty hard to shoot holes in that Pop, thanks for the heads up..... I know where I'll be getting my next batteries.

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I've been doting on them for years, wouldn't buy anything else. Read posts #50 and #51........

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Having been in the Backup Power field for thirty eight years for the wolds largest Telecom company before my retirement, I know that there are only about four major manufacturers of lead acid start batteries in the entire world. You are correct in your logic!
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I've been doting on them for years, wouldn't buy anything else. Read posts #50 and #51........

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/43...perduty-2.html
Saayyy, that's from December, 2005, and Post #51 was MINE, where I talk about where I buy my batteries.

I guess old habits die hard....

(Yes, that was an intentional battery pun.)

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Good to hear!

I hear Optima's were bought out by Johnson Controls too. Our local O'Reilly auto "claims" their Superstart, Wally World's Everstart, and Autozone's Duralast are all made by the same people just labeled differently.

No local Costco here though
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Excellent find and write up Pop. Many people do not realize that a lot of our day to day commodities are manufactured by the same plant only the label is different
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I've got 'em. One heck of a deal at $150 for a pair of 850cca batteries with a 3 year full replacement warranty.
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On a side note I'm having trouble with my red top Optima's(1000CA/850 CCA). They are about 1.5 years old. If the truck sits for a week straight it won't start. If I throw my charger on it, by the next morning their sitting at about 50% but still @ about 12v(40~45% if still connected to the truck). I can't tell if I have a draw on my system somewhere or if the batteries are just losing their capacity. After they are 100% charged and you reconnect, charger says 85%.

I thought it might be my stereo, isolated it, doesn't seem to be it.

The only other thing I can think might be a draw is my trailer brake actuator, even though nothings connected.

Any idea's?

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Although I'm not having any problems with mine, that's sure good info to know. I don't know where the nearest Costco is, but prolly wouldn't be hard to find.
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Just to stir the pot a bit

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I'm open to a critique on this, but you better come armed with more than hearsay.


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Costco has a Group 65, 850CCA battery for $75.99. ....... as the on-line reviews have it top-rated.....

........ Looks pretty close!........


....... and both of us look REAL carefully........


........ Though we didn't have a scale, they felt like they weighed the same, too.........




Sorry, but my twisted mind found this funny. No offense intended.

The only thing I can add to the battery conversation with personal knowledge is that cheap alternators will kill batteries quicker than they will wear out by themselves. Autozone's warrranty on batteries is MUCH, MUCH easier to deal with than NAPA's warranty (at least where I live).
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Having been in the Backup Power field for thirty eight years for the wolds largest Telecom company before my retirement, I know that there are only about four major manufacturers of lead acid start batteries in the entire world. You are correct in your logic!
Just pulled this from:
Consumer Reports Article - MSN Autos

"Most auto batteries are made by just three manufacturers, Delphi, Exide, and Johnson Controls Industries. Each makes batteries sold under several different brand names. Delphi makes ACDelco and some EverStart (Wal-Mart) models. Exide makes Champion, Exide, Napa, and some EverStart batteries. Johnson Controls makes Diehard (Sears), Duralast (AutoZone), Interstate, Kirkland (Costco), Motorcraft (Ford), and some EverStarts."

I went back and read that last line twice.

Soooooooo...........

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I've been doting on them for years, wouldn't buy anything else.
Same here, Jeff.

January of '05 I purchased two replacement batteries for my wife's Excursion from Orchard Supply Hardware. Die Hard Gold tops. Since that time, all I've ever bought was Costco batteries.

I've had to use their free three year replacement several times, when my daughters alternator in her Escape took a dump (twice), once for my F150, and once for my Lightning.

My son just bought one for his Mustang too, after we replaced his alternator, which took a dump.

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. Though we didn't have a scale, they felt like they weighed the same, too.

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It would be interesting to know if batteries from different store weighed the same or not. 1/2 to 1lb would be hard to feel

You got a good run on the Motorcrafts,don't think I have ever got more than 3 years from the ones I've had in the last 30 years ( could have something to do with the climate )
Think my truck is on it's 8th set of batteries now from 2 different stores.Most lasting from 5 1/2 months to 54 weeks
The closest Costco to me is about 80 miles
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Very interesting info.

Especially the part about the MFRs.

I have been running Optima Red Tops (same pair) for about 5 years now without issue, but wondering just how good they are. I have put my Xtreme charger on them and they ramp up, but it doesn't last.

Time to renew the Costco membership....
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