Metal to metal clank & whining at startup
#1
Metal to metal clank & whining at startup
02 F-150 SCrew w/ 4.6 to 5.4 engine swap.
When I first start my truck in the morning or after it's been sitting a while, it sounds like it has NO oil with metal to metal clanking noise. Then after a few seconds I hear a grinding/low pitched whining noise similar to a power steering pump noise and then the truck stops the metal to metal clanking but continues to have the low pitched whine.
I know it's not the PS pump because I replaced it. I took the serp. belt off and started it and it still makes the noise. A mechanic used a stethoscope and the whine was loudest at the oil filter adapter. I know there are no moving parts there but whats making the noise and why does my metal to metal clank stop as soon as the whine starts?
I want to sell this truck but with these bad noises I don't know who would buy it.
When I first start my truck in the morning or after it's been sitting a while, it sounds like it has NO oil with metal to metal clanking noise. Then after a few seconds I hear a grinding/low pitched whining noise similar to a power steering pump noise and then the truck stops the metal to metal clanking but continues to have the low pitched whine.
I know it's not the PS pump because I replaced it. I took the serp. belt off and started it and it still makes the noise. A mechanic used a stethoscope and the whine was loudest at the oil filter adapter. I know there are no moving parts there but whats making the noise and why does my metal to metal clank stop as soon as the whine starts?
I want to sell this truck but with these bad noises I don't know who would buy it.
#2
Just a guess but a good chance it is the cam chain tensioners wore out.
If the noise changes as the motor runs a short time, it may be the tensioners taking up the slack because they are operated hydraulicly off engine oil pressure.
Quite often but not always this is the results of not using the factory reccomended oil weight of 5w20.
Many people still live in the past as far as oil weight goes and with this engine design, that is totally different, they insist on using the old heavey weight oils that cause the chain tensioners to put 'too much' tension on the chains causing a lot of extra wear, especially on cold starts until the oil thins down from heat.
It has to come apart by removing the front chain cover to see what's happened.
Good uck.
If the noise changes as the motor runs a short time, it may be the tensioners taking up the slack because they are operated hydraulicly off engine oil pressure.
Quite often but not always this is the results of not using the factory reccomended oil weight of 5w20.
Many people still live in the past as far as oil weight goes and with this engine design, that is totally different, they insist on using the old heavey weight oils that cause the chain tensioners to put 'too much' tension on the chains causing a lot of extra wear, especially on cold starts until the oil thins down from heat.
It has to come apart by removing the front chain cover to see what's happened.
Good uck.
#3
Just a guess but a good chance it is the cam chain tensioners wore out.
If the noise changes as the motor runs a short time, it may be the tensioners taking up the slack because they are operated hydraulicly off engine oil pressure.
Quite often but not always this is the results of not using the factory reccomended oil weight of 5w20.
Many people still live in the past as far as oil weight goes and with this engine design, that is totally different, they insist on using the old heavey weight oils that cause the chain tensioners to put 'too much' tension on the chains causing a lot of extra wear, especially on cold starts until the oil thins down from heat.
It has to come apart by removing the front chain cover to see what's happened.
Good uck.
If the noise changes as the motor runs a short time, it may be the tensioners taking up the slack because they are operated hydraulicly off engine oil pressure.
Quite often but not always this is the results of not using the factory reccomended oil weight of 5w20.
Many people still live in the past as far as oil weight goes and with this engine design, that is totally different, they insist on using the old heavey weight oils that cause the chain tensioners to put 'too much' tension on the chains causing a lot of extra wear, especially on cold starts until the oil thins down from heat.
It has to come apart by removing the front chain cover to see what's happened.
Good uck.
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