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Old 02-17-2003, 05:54 PM
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Lightbulb fuel saver

i didn't know if i should ask this in here... but what the hey....

does anyone have experience with devices like this and do they actually work or are they simply gimmicks?

http://www.sme123.com/fuelsaver.cfm

im doing an informative speech on surpressed technologies for saving fuel such as vaccum chamber carbuerators and whatnot, and came accross this product. any thoughts or opinions are appreciated....
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Big gimmick!!!!!

The giveaway that it is a gimmick was the marketing BS!!!
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If you buy one of these, let me know- I can get you a great deal on the Brooklyn Bridge! Come on- "magnetic fluid technology?" I want to meet someone that actually has one of these, with documented data. Sounds like the old Electronic Rustproofing scam to me.
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okay well i have heard that putting a magnet on your fuel line does do something to the fuel going through the line thought it was a shot.

how about the TORNADO fuel saver that you put in your air intake? any opinions on that?
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The tornado is also a gimmick!!!!! And while we are talking
gimmicks, Splitfire spark plugs fall into the same category!!!!
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is there any add on devices out there which are not gimmicks? i already know about the basic stuff to change to pick up mpg's but is there stuff on the market that really works? im coming accross alot of products in searches.....
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I've heard something about the magnet also.
But I think its a gimmick. If it takes "metal" out of your fuel flow it'd just clog up that part of the line.
Plus collecting junk in the fuel.... thats what a fuel filter is for.
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i dont think the magnet separates anything out, i think it changes something with how the particles are flowing or how they volatize.... something to that effect. i know there's physics and chemistry involved which is beyond my education.... maybe someone who knows their stuff can add something
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Dear friends

Just my 0.02

Theroretically it should work loading (+ and -) and spreading the particles in the fuel to be volatilized easier ence an easier combustion should happen producing a better fuel eficiency (not better than 0.1% due to other limitations on combustion process as such).

Practically it does not work since this porcess has to take the equivalent energy to a 1.5 million kw/h to produce such effect during 1 ms.

Therefore the theory behid this is real but in order to work it would take so much energy than you would have to carry on a nuclear plant in the bed just for getting 0.0X% fuel eficiency during just 1ms.

The only prooved fuel saver is a light load at the right feet.

This is a real snake oil

Just my 0.02

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agree with previous posts. the "tornado upgrades,etc " mentioned above are worthless.
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I have seen some web sights with ideas that seemed like they would work. One in particular seemed to trick your engine into running lean, hopefully with no harm--Try a search for "Eagle Research" on a good search engine. I have noticed that all of the low dollar mass marketed products don't usually do anything.

As far as milage goes, nothing beats good maintanance and a light foot.
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Just from what I've heard... All fuel injected vehicles come from the factory already running a tad bit lean to preserve fuel mileage
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Hmmm. I understood that the opposite was true - that it ran a bit rich so that there would be very little unburned oxygen (O2) in the cylinder, resulting in less ozone (O3, which oxygen likes to change to in high energy environments) production. The result is unburned fuel, which is changed by a catalyzed chemical reaction in the converter into less polluting substances.

That is my understanding, but then my understanding is often flawed.
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Hrm both points are good.
Anyone able to clear this up?
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too add what i know.....from what ive been reading on super high mileage carburators, they have no emissions since they literally burn almost all of the gas because it gets vaporized, and no unburned fuel gets put through the exhaust. what you end up with is literally no emissions, and air that is cleaner than some that you breathe. so it would go to say that if you burn rich, then your putting more unburned gas through, and your creating more emissions. if this is true, then the manufacturers would want to create less emissions, hence they would run their engines a bit leaner...... does this make any sense?
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