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Old 08-09-2010, 11:40 AM
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T444E B10 and B50 life?

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International T 444E Specifications


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Additional T 444E Information:
  • The International T 444E has a B10 life of 200,000 miles & a B50 life of 350,000 miles.
What exactly does that mean??? I read it as at 350K it is half used up. so it goes down hill fast between 200K and 350K.

I know there are a few guys here that are at or near the 300K mark and seem happy? so what gives?
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I'd be curious as to how they came up with those numbers. After all, in small print it also says "No affiliation with Navistar, International engine corp, or Ford Motor Company."
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....What exactly does that mean??? I read it as at 350K it is half used up. so it goes down hill fast between 200K and 350K....
I think you misunderstand the terms being used. (If I'm understanding you.) This doesn't mean that any given engine has 90% of it's life left at 200k mi. but only 50% of it's life left at 350k mi. It means that at 200k mi. 10% of the engines can be expected to need a rebuild, and at 350k mi. you can expect 50% of the engines to need a rebuild. Statistically, its not the same thing.
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I think you misunderstand the terms being used. (If I'm understanding you.) This doesn't mean that any given engine has 90% of it's life left at 200k mi. but only 50% of it's life left at 350k mi. It means that at 200k mi. 10% of the engines can be expected to need a rebuild, and at 350k mi. you can expect 50% of the engines to need a rebuild. Statistically, its not the same thing.
OK. I googled it and came up with the answer. 10%, at 200K will require cylinder head removal or pan removal, statistically speaking which is what International considers a major repair.

Navistar's definition of major repair to an engine is when the repair requires removal of the cylinder head and/or the oil pan

http://bellaphotographics.com/FordSu...%20Cummins.pdf
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OK. I googled it and came up with the answer. 10%, at 200K will require cylinder head removal or pan removal, statistically speaking which is what International considers a major repair.

Navistar's definition of major repair to an engine is when the repair requires removal of the cylinder head and/or the oil pan

http://bellaphotographics.com/FordSu...%20Cummins.pdf

great find!!!! and thanks for the answer
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heck those oil pans rut out before the first oil change up in the north east so i believe that
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Nice article but I'd still prefer an ISB, especially in a medium duty truck.
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