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Old 07-28-2010, 07:24 AM
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Whoever has done 2WD ZF Swap

I have a 96 F150 2WD short wheelbase with the M5R2. I have read here and other forums many posts on swapping to a ZF. I think I have most items resolved except for two items. Is getting a two piece ZF driveshaft and getting it shorten the best way to go? Is the tunnel cover different between the two trans?
 
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The tunnel cover is not different. I have heard that the rear mount is different, and I have heard it is not different. The one I have is very different than what was in my truck, but my truck was converted from auto, so that doesn't count.

You don't have to get a 2-piece driveshaft, you just need to convert your driveshaft from the slip yoke you have now to the flange the ZF uses.
 
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Thank you for the reply. From what I have read the 2WD ZF is shorter than the M5R2 so will my driveshaft work(length-wise) with the flange the ZF uses. Anyone have a picture of the ZF flange?<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:26 AM
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I am not sure about the length issue. The flange that you need on the front of your driveshaft looks the same as the one you now have on the rear.
 
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If you use a single piece driveshaft, it must have a slip joint to work with the fixed yoke on the ZF. I'm not sure how well or if Ford ever used a two piece driveshaft on a short wheelbase truck (I assume standard cab, short bed?). The transmission crossmemeber is the same as the Mazda - I used one from an '95 F150 in my '87 under the ZF. The isolator (rubber mount) should also be the same and should transfer to the ZF. I got the tunnel cover out of the same truck, so it will also work fine with the ZF.
 
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Thanks for the reply. That is my concern in regards to the slip joint, there needs to be some "play" when wheels go over a bump,and the reason for the two-piece question, yes(standard cab,short bed). I have located a ZF locally already out(private owner) but he doesn't have the orginal driveshaft.
 
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A Bronco would have a driveshaft with a slip joint in the middle. You could have one lengthened to fit your truck.
 
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If you use a single piece driveshaft, it must have a slip joint to work with the fixed yoke on the ZF.
Oh, yeah, good point, I kinda forgot about that. I was just thinking in terms of 1-piece vs. 2-piece, but you are correct, he's gotta have a driveshaft with a slip-joint in it one way or the other.
 
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Here's two, are they close enough for you? ;)
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/zfyoke.jpg

Maybe you'll like this one better...
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/Bronco2wd.jpg
...that's a 2wd ZF in a Bronco.

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Yes. Those are close enough although I don't understand what the close-up is showing me. The second however is great, that's what I wanted to see. Thanks for replying. Is that a new custom made driveshaft or one that has been lengthened or shortened?
 
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I now have the trans. After reading somemore I'm thinking a long wheelbase 4WD slip-joint rear shaft or the rear from a F250 which has a slipjoint might work. Granted more than likely I'll have to have some work done on them before it fits correctly. Since I have the short wheelbase(117 inch), maybe I will have a few more options as far as length is concerned. Thanks again for all the help.
 
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Originally Posted by oscar4pbr
Yes. Those are close enough although I don't understand what the close-up
is showing me. The second however is great, that's what I wanted to see.
Is that a new custom made driveshaft or one that has been lengthened or
shortened?
The close-up shows the damage from where 1+1/16" u-joint caps were
used instead of 1+1/8" caps. The mechanic ruined the ZF's yoke and the
10.25's yoke both. :/ Title and/or pay does not a good mechanic make. ;)

I flat don't know anything about that driveshaft. :/ I took some driveshaft
parts in and told him the length I needed and he just happened to have
that one hanging on the wall! LOL :)

Looked to be a custom job that wasn't picked up on time to me. :/
Dusty, tagged and ready to go.

...the length -and- one end was already perfect, so Wade Simmonds just
changed the caps from 1+1/16" to 1+1/8" (on the one end) and I was out
of there without paying a penny.

IME, don't fret the driveshaft work. It'll be money well spent, -if you want
it to run nice and smooth down the freeway. BTDT and paid cash even. ;)

Alvin in AZ
 
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