Hey guys,

Its been a while since I've been on here, and I was mainly looking for a 2005 and up V-10 CC 4x4. Life has been goofy for me for the last year or so. And I haven't had the chance or the "room" to get a truck. I've backed off on my dreams of a big camper, and just picked up a smaller one today. So I have been considering the 05 and up 5.4 as well. I've gotten tired of trying to look for a big camper, and a "newer" truck. Put the pencil to the paper and couldn't justify the payments. So I spent a lot less on a camper, and decided to spend less on a truck (older).

And as luck may have it (or may not have it), I came across a 2002 V-10 CC 4x4 Lariat with 115K miles. Newer cheapy tires, cap, manual shift 4x4, looks clean in the pics (don't they always??), one owner, haven't seen the Carfax yet. Asking price is $13,500.

So I have a few questions.....I'm pretty good with the 05 and up prices and specs and values, but I haven't studied the pre-05 trucks at all. I knew there were spark plug issues back in 99, but did they persist into the 2002 year? Any issues with the 4 speed auto trans? (I know the 5 speed is considered to be superior).

Our trailer is a 4100 lb 26ft travel trailer. No plans to pick up anything bigger. Probably take it out 3 times per summer, about 200 miles away. Maybe one big trip in 3 years out to Wyoming. Truck will be plowing my own 200ft driveway in the winter. Truck will probably see 4000 miles per year tops. If I were going to drive/tow more, I'd look at lower mileage. But from what I will be doing, I don't know if the mileage is an issue. I know the power of the truck will be enough for what I'm doing, and shouldn't struggle pulling that camper cross country.

And also, is it worth anything near the asking price?

Sorry for the questions. I know there is a search button, but I just don't have time tonight to search (kids on my own tonight, etc), and I want to look at this truck hopefully tomorrow RIGHT after work.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate the help on here!!

Pics...not sure what the red dash light is:

 

That is about the average asking price out west. I picked up my 2000 V10 Crew 4X4 5spd a few months back for $7,750, but that was an exceptional deal.

 

Personally I would like that truck at 10,500.00 simply due to the econmony.
A 2002 will be usually short time fianceing and that makes them harder to sell short term high payments.
The miles are in line and from what I see in the pictures it looks great.
It will need a spark plug change and it does have the V-10 that is known as a plug popper. The extra spark plug threads were not added until 2003. I have a personal preference for the V-10, a very good engine indeed.
No transmission issues I am aware of.
Exhaust manifold studs are known to pop and break.
Steering column wires are known to chalf and short.
The rear yoke will probably need the spline greased. Easy job.
These are the the most common problems in the 99-02 Super-duties.

All vehicles have prone problems and the F-250 does not have as many as most. The above are the few things I would look for in this truck.
The truck is at the point the plugs will need changing if they haven't been. This is a 3.5 hour job at best COP boots should also be replaced at this time.
Take a look at the air filter if you inspect the truck. It can sometimes give you an overall picture of how the truck has been maintained.
To be honest with you I would look 2003 up.

 

I would say it is worth all of 13500.00 the value I got for it was 15000.00 retail and 11800 trade in. Like above I would check and make sure the studs did not break off at the manifold. As far as blowing plugs out. I have had two 5.4 97' and a 00', and have a 01' v10 for landscape work. I have never had a plug blow out. The best example would be my 2000 f150 pulling a 25 foot camper on a 3 or 4 mile 6% grade screaming above 5000 rpm the whole time, never blew a plug. Torque them correct and most of time forget it. Back to the 02' if the person selling it out right is trying to get above trade in (nothing wrong with that) he is probably only geting 11000 trade in at the dealer, however I would offer 12500.00 and go from there if it is as nice as he/she states, Also keep in mind if it is a one owner it is probably paid off. The 99' to 04' have good power and get better fuel mileage then the 05' and up. I also noticed it is a 4x4 off road so you get some skid plates for snow plowing protection, they came in very helpful for the 01' I have. good luck

 

I have no idea what the red light is on the dash. I just checked my 2000 and there isn't even a light in that spot.

 

As far as the dash light it is the door ajar light nothing to worry about.

 

Also I forgot the 02' f250 had a trans temp gauge for the first time.

 

Spark plug timings:

December 1996 - 4.6L 4V alignment feature added
February 1997 - 4.6L 2V head alignment feature added
September 2000 - WEP (Windsor Engine Plant) 2V head alignment feature modified (4.6/5.4/6.8)
November 2002 - WEP introduced long thread heads on 2V (all)
May 2003 - REP (Romeo Engine Plant) introduced long-thread heads on 4V 4.6 and 5.4
November 2003 - REP introduced long-thread heads on 2V and modified alignment feature

In 1999, and 2001, an interim fix was done for a cross-threading issue.
Original process:

Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down), monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 0-360 degrees.

New process (addressed the possibility of applying installation torque for more than 25 degrees of rotation)
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down) start monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 3-25 degrees.

Another action to address cross-threading was the addition of an alignment feature to lead the plug into the hole.

 

Well guys, I just got home from work, never got the chance to make the journey today. Probably going to take tomorrow off and head over there. Its at a dealer by the way. Clean Oasis was faxed to me. They said the CarFax was clean (but I haven't seen it yet).

It is at a dealer, so I was thinking about getting a price for THEM to change the plugs (if they break, they have to deal with it).



Is that easy to see on the rearward cylinders?



Any way to see if that happened?



Is that just dropping the driveshaft and removing the yoke?



Build date shows May 24, 2002. Not sure where that falls in line with a fix. Is it better than the 99-01 trucks?

Thanks again guys. I really appreciate the help!!!

 

Two more questions for the V-10 veterans.......

At this mileage, is there anyone who would be worried to take it on a 1100 mile round trip pulling a car hauler?

Or what about a 2400 mile round trip pulling a 4100lb trailer to Wyoming?

 

Looks like a very nice truck I would certainly offer them lower price especially if you can bring your own financing. Others have already answered your previous questions but as to the last two I wouldn't hesitate to drive those distances or haul that little of weight with that truck.
115K is nothing on that motor.

 

I was going to offer 13K out the door (brings it down to around 12K before taxes, etc).

 

Truck looks good just have to make shure the drivetrain is good too.(The best you can anyways) Before taking the truck on a long trip I would go over it and change fluids and etc but it doesn't look like the truck was beat around bad. As said before look for broken exhaust manifold studs. If there are broken studs they will eventually need replacing. Honestly I wouldn't sweat the spark plug issue too much. There are lots of modulars on the road that never spit a plug. Overall these trucks are very reliable.

When you drive the truck pay close attention for any missfires. A friend of mine was looking at F-150s for his son and went to a local used car dealer that was decent. Got in the 150 drove it and it missed horribly so he turned right around and went back. They had another one on the lot similar so he took that one for a spin. That one missed like crazy too. Turned out the idiot dealer pressure washed the engine and filled up the plug holes with water. Not a huge deal to fix just can cost money and be a PITA.

If you can get it for $13k out the door I think that is a pretty good deal.

 

Thanks dkf.

Wasn't there an issue also with the plugs stripping or breaking while trying to replace them?

Also, I just read the V-10 High Mileage thread, where everyone was using 5-20 oil. Obviously, I do not know what oil was used in this truck (unless I see the oil change window sticker tomorrow), and if I see they used 5-20, then great. But if it shows something else, if I buy the truck do I switch to 5-20 at this point? Or would it be too late and cause a problem due to 115K miles of different oil weights?

Just getting the last minute jitters before plunking down $13K on a truck with 115K miles!! I guess that's better than $24K on a 30K mile truck.........I cannot afford that much!! lol But I noticed the rear bumper doesn't line up evenly across the rear of the bed on each side......pushed/bent bumper? Frame twist? Nothing to worry about?



Thanks!!

 

Just re-read the faxed Oasis......its got 4.30 gears. Not too thrilled about that, but in reality, I guess it'll give a little more oomph when pulling (not that it would need it for a 4100 lb camping trailer)

EDIT: Just read some more posts on here, seems like there are only benefits of having the 4.30 gears.

Heading out at 11:00 today to see it and hopefully leave a deposit.