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Old 07-16-2010, 03:55 PM
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What's good and bad about the 6.0L engine?

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I am starting to look for a 6.0L powered Excursion.

I have had a 94 diesel Suburban since I bought it new and I want another one (they don't make them) so, I'm considering getting an Excursion.

I have heard all sorts of "hearsay" things about the 6.0L engine....

What's the real deal? I am going to probably get one with less than 60,000 miles on it. I've found several with under 50,000 miles....

Are there any show stopping things I should look for and are there any mods I should do to it myself (and/or avoid if someone else did them)?


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Hey Rick. Check out bismic post about buying a used 6.0, also read the tech folder there is a lot of good info in there for you to look for. The main things I would look for in a 6.0 is as folows.
1. White resuidue around the degas bottle (could mean bad egr cooler/blown HG.)
2. Be sure there isn't an am intake on it (they are known to cause problems)
3. Use only oem filters (will-fit ones are bad)
4. It would be nice to know the maintance history (ie..get an oassis report)
5. see if head studs have been installed (would be nice if they are, but not nessary)
6. check all fulid levals
7. I wouldn't buy one that has had, or has, any off the self tunner ie..Bully dog, banks, edge. The only two I would be ok with having had is SCT, or Spartan. either one with custom tunes.
That is a start there will be others with more info that I haven't thought about yet. As far as mod you should do yourself. I would install a coolant filter first thing. Also consider getting gauges to include at least ECT, EOT, and fuel pressure. If you go the tuned route I would also get EGT's, Boost (depending on the year), and Trans Temp.
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Thanks y'all!!

I have tried the search......it's pretty hard to search for general non-specific problems. You get a zillion responses.....

I have read suggestions from "avoid the 6.0L altogether" to "avoid certain years"!


There's not much choice if you want a fairly new low mile Excursion! The last ones were made in 05 or 06?


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Thanks y'all!!

I have tried the search......it's pretty hard to search for general non-specific problems. You get a zillion responses.....

I have read suggestions from "avoid the 6.0L altogether" to "avoid certain years"!


There's not much choice if you want a fairly new low mile Excursion! The last ones were made in 05 or 06?


Thanks again!


Rick
The last year for the Excursion was 05 which used 04 engines!

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The last year for the Excursion was 05 which used 04 engines!

Good Luck!

Is that good or bad?
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The 05 engines did recieve some updates, but I would say that is not necessarly a bad thing. If you made up your mind about purchasing an Excursion I would focus on purchasing an 05 model in hopes you may have a little warrenty left (only months at this point) and the option to purchase a Ford ESP plan.

If you kept that Chevy 6.5 engine running this long I would think you wouldn't have a problem with the Excursion. We had a 97 Chevy 6.5 turbo diesel and they had there share of problems.
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If you kept that Chevy 6.5 engine running this long I would think you wouldn't have a problem with the Excursion. We had a 97 Chevy 6.5 turbo diesel and they had there share of problems.
Yeah.. The just about ALL 94/95 models needed a replacement injection pump. I of course didn't replace mine until the warranty expired.....

I did all the work myself too. The OBD-I 6.5L diesel is pretty easy to work on.......(and luckily, GM reimbursed me for all the parts after the fact!)

I have no doubt I can work on a power Stroke engine too....I just don't want to get a model that might have been in a "lemon" year.....

I am hoping that there really was no particular year with big problems....
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Yeah.. The just about ALL 94/95 models needed a replacement injection pump. I of course didn't replace mine until the warranty expired.....

I did all the work myself too. The OBD-I 6.5L diesel is pretty easy to work on.......(and luckily, GM reimbursed me for all the parts after the fact!)

I have no doubt I can work on a power Stroke engine too....I just don't want to get a model that might have been in a "lemon" year.....

I am hoping that there really was no particular year with big problems....
Generally speaking every year of the 6.0 life span recieved some level of improvements. The largest number of improvements came on the 04 model year and the smallest qty was with the 07 model year which doesn't apply to the Excursion.

If you do purchase an Excursion with a 6.0 then you will need to camp out here and read all the sticky's as there is alot go good info. If you do run into problems this is the place to be with alot of good help.

If you haven't driven a 6.0 psd your in for a treat. The power of the 6.0 will make that old 6.5 feel like a turd.

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I love mine and no major problems..... knock on wood. I always stay tune to FTE and just hang around to learn more about the 6.0. Maintenance is key!!!!
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If you haven't driven a 6.0 psd your in for a treat. The power of the 6.0 will make that old 6.5 feel like a turd.

Good Luck...

I have no misconceptions about the power differences in the 6.5LGM IDI TD and any other diesel. They were only rated at about 190 hp and about 400 ft-lbs. When you realize that, it's ok.

I have about 185,000 onmy 6.5 and it's still running strong.

I want a bigger boat and I want to be able to tow it easily. The 6.5L just won't cut it. Also, I want a newer vehicle.

So the Excursion is the best choice IMHO. I don't need a big pickup...... (I have a 55 F-600!! with the 8x12 flatbed on it...I can haul more than most F250/350 pickups out there!!)
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What is it about the 6.2 and 6.5 that it doesn't want to start when its warmed up?
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