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Old 07-15-2010, 08:49 PM
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Flat Black Rustoleum Paint Job

Has anyone done this with a roller or a foam brush? I tried it on the side of the bed with a 4" foam brush, and I later could see vertical lines where I brushed, plain as day.

For kicks, I wet sanded over the brush marks, and it went away, and you couldn't tell I used a brush, but it took on a shine to it, which of course I don't want because I'm going for flat.

I gave up and tried Rustoleum's Hunter Green, which comes out medium green, not dark, and my heart's just not in it.

There are a lot of websites and videos showing how to do Rustoleum with a roller or brush, but I've only found shiny paint.

Any tips here on how to do flat black and make it look decent, not like it was rattle canned? Thanks.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:23 PM
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Sounds like the $100 paint job that was written about a couple years ago in Car Craft or Hot Rod. The used Rustoleum, brushed each coat then sanded like hell. As I recall it took about 7 coats of paint with color sanding after each coat. Took a couple weeks to let set between each coat after letting it set up.

Some guys are using a flat black tractor paint sold by John Deere, although I understand someone is making it for John Deere and also sells under the home label for quite a bit less.

You could probably buy a decent BC/CC system with a flattening agent in the clear coat for a couple hundred bucks from one of the mail order discount paint houses.

I've used these guys for supplies and have been quite happy: http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:59 PM
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If the rustoleum hunter green is not dark enough for you then just mix a little rustoleum black in with it. I've actually done this exact thing and it worked out great. It turned out a little olive green looking (but dark), I think if you throw a little blue in there it would be a pretty decent color.
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You have to Spray paint on, to have it look decent, I belive you can get a paint thinner for rustoleum to thin and spray the paint on with.



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I really like the Rustoleum idea and am bound and determined to make it work.

If I mix my paint, say 50/50 Hunter Green and Gloss Black, that would probably be a shade I like. But will I be able to get the mixture right every time? A year from now, if I get a ding and want to redo that spot, will a 5% error in mixture look like hell?

Otherwise, it seems like shiny Rustoleum is awesome, and so easy to work with.

Is there a way to do flat black but not have lines where you did it in sections?

If not, I think I'll try the 50/50 hunter green / gloss black route.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:08 PM
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That's what I thought, flat colors probably have to be sprayed. Thanks.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:22 PM
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I think the 50/50 hunter green and gloss black will be too dark. I'm speaking from experience here. It will most likey look totally black. And you should be able to get the mixture exactly the same every time if you use a measuring pail. Personally I'd try 75% hunter green, 20% black and 5% blue. You'll see what I mean about not as much black and maybe some blue once you experiment. I've never done the blue thing but I think it would turn out better.
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You may be right, and your suggested mixture sounds interesting and worth a try. Keep in mind that even though Rustoleum calls it hunter green, and even though the color looks dark on the label, the actual color is a medium green, maybe even light. A neighbor walked by, complemented it, and asked if it was apple green.

That's why I was thinking it needs that much black to get it to actual hunter green. I had a '79 dentside in the '80's in high school that was dark jade metallic or whatever the dark green color is, and I loved it.

For what it's worth, I tried Rustoleum's Royal Blue (I think it was), because the label looked like a darker blue, and dark blue is the truck's original color. I got it on there, and it was baby blue or sky blue. The actual color wasn't just a little bit lighter, it was a lot lighter. I don't know what Rustoleum's problem is with advertising and naming their colors.

I saw someone on here do their truck Safety Red, and it looked awesome, and like Rustoleum got the color right, so I guess their problem is only with their darker colors.

Their flat black looked great, if I only knew how to apply it right. Who knows, maybe I'll give up on the foam brush method that looks so great with shiny colors and spray bomb it flat. I really like dark green, but flat black is preference #1.
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FYI:

This isn't my truck of course, but here's a picture of what shade of green Rustoleum's hunter green is:

Jeff's Bronco Graveyard - Reader's Ride #6425: 1984 Ford F-Series Pickup

(notice his truck is in the shade. My neighbor's right...get it in the sun and it looks like an apple)

...and here's the label for Rustoleum:

RustOleum.com

I don't know how to activate the links on here, but they can be copy/pasted into a browser.

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I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.Click the image to open in full size.
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I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.
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That looks great.

If I can find the Blitz Black up here, that's what is going on my 68 F100.
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Since it's a John Deere color just get it from a John Deere dealer.

Coz- that looks great. Did you do the body work or get nice parts or what?
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I painted mine with john deere blitz black. I sprayed it with a 19.00 harbor freight gun. It came out awesome. I have never painted before and it looks like a pro did it. Total cost about 90.00.Click the image to open in full size.
second, that paint job looks hella nice
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Since it's a John Deere color just get it from a John Deere dealer.

Coz- that looks great. Did you do the body work or get nice parts or what?
The dealer up here does not stock it and wants to charge an arm and a let to get it sent up here. We'll see, I have a bunch of time before I get to that step.
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The dealer up here does not stock it and wants to charge an arm and a let to get it sent up here. We'll see, I have a bunch of time before I get to that step.
There are some tractor forums with John Deere dealers as sponsors. Sorry I don't have the links in my computer anymore, but you should be able to Google them. They advertise competitive pricing on parts. I'd bet they would ship you the paint you need reasonably if they're used to dealing online.
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