Truck is an 06 f250 6.0 SRW 4-door. I have a gooseneck hitch and 14k # gvw Kaufmann equipment hauler with brakes. Would I be able to haul my 555B back hoe? I don't need to, but if I ever needed to move it some where I want to know if I could LEGALLY with this superduty

 

I don't know about the legality part of it

you would probably be okay in the flats

but if you ever got on the hIll it might push you around a little bi

what is it a four by four with an extended boom

 

You'll have to scale it to know for sure, but you might be ok.

Looks like the 555b can weigh anywhere from 6k to 14,689 lbs depending on how it's configured.

Guessing the trailer is 2,500 lb empty?

Truck 2 or 4wd? E rated tires?

 

Truck is 4x4 with Goodyear wranglers E rated. Truck is studded with gauges, exhaust, and sct tuner. Trailer , IIRC, was around 2750 empty.

 

Tractor has bucket in the front and boom on the back, only 2wd. I'll see if I can find the placard on it and/or post a picture of it

 

 

Just to point out were splitting hairs here to figure if it's legal or not. As BLADE35 posted above your truck will pull 16-18k on the flats pretty comfortably. hills and higher speeds may stress it a bit. With tunes and heavy loads I would recommend monitoring egt's.

Check this sticker in the door jamb. It tells you how much weight you can put on your truck. Front and rear axles are listed separately.


If your axle code is 3L it has 3.73 rear gears. (4.10 and 4.30 were also available). Her is the specs for your truck. 2006 Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty Specifications Gross Combined Weight Rating is 23,500 with the 3.73 gears.

 

I was looking for the placard on the 555b to see if it gave me a weight on it. Can't find it. But I know I have 3.73ls in it. I do have egt probe and various other gauges to make sure it's happy when towing. But it is nice to know that I can haul that GCWR!

 

Just a guess at this point but without the 4wd we'll take 1,800ish pounds off the max 14,689 for the backhoe and say it weighs 12,800 and trailer is 2,700lbs. Bringing the total to 15,500.

Another guess we have to make for now is the weight of the truck, mine is same year and drivetrain (assuming 3.73 cogs in the rear). Mine scaled at 8125. With a full fuel tank, tool box, fithwheel hitch and my wife and myself in it. So 23,500(max combined) minus 8125 leaves you with 15,375.

Ouch, 125lbs overweight. As you can see, this rig would be right on the line so knowing the actual numbers is going to make or break it. (My wife happens to weigh 125 so if she got out it would be legal...don't tell her I said that )

You still have to figure hitch weight but I think you see see how to do it?

Rims and tires will likely exceed REAR GAWR on sticker, so subtract actual weight from the Max on the sticker to see how much is left to carry. Weigh tongue of trailer with load (or rear axle of truck with and without load) and compare it to the amount you had left above.

You can manipulate tongue weight a lot depending on where the backhoe is on the trailer, I think 12-15% of the total load on the hitch would pull safely.

 

I think the important point you make is: "if I have to". So this isn't gonna' be a regular thing. Legal and what you can get away with is two different things.

To put it in perspective I filled my 12' Carson Dump trailer to the gills with wet clay. It's got 6k axles but the factory conveniently de-rated it to 9995 lbs, which is important in CA as it doesn't matter if it's empty or full if it's rated at 10k or more I need a class A licence to tow it. So much for legal...

The tires are G rated, so they actually can handle over 15k lbs. Now, I "had" to move this clay and the trailer axles bottomed on the frame. I towed only 5 miles, but at the end went up a quarter mile of 20+% grade (I would absolutely use 4 Lo if I ever had to do it again, just wasn't thinking).

I have no idea, and don't even want to know, what the trailer weighed that day. But I can tell you I got gravel at our local quarry and scaled out at 15K of trailer weight and it had about an inch between the axle and frame on all four wheels .

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you can tow that hoe. These things are absolute beasts. But I'd only do it if you had to and I'd do what the others have said about watching everything.

If you can, take the rig to a commercial scale and that way you'll know how much of a pucker factor you need to have on if you ever "have" to tow it

 

There is also a big diff. on what you can do and what the cops will say if you get into a wreck. The wreck doesn't have to be your fault but you have exposed yourself.

 

All very good points here. I may just have to load it up one day and take it to the scale we have down the road to see what it all weighs out to be. Thank you all for helping me out here

 

These guys are right, I got into the #'s and ratings but state and local laws can vary greatly also. It is a substantial truck with good power and gearing, I think if you ever have to pull the backhoe you will be pleasantly surprised.

 

Rusty, I tried to rep you after that #9 post of yours. The numbers are exactly what he needs to get into if he scales it out. It's good to know that he is safe, and then hopefully never does have to worry about legal (but it is there), and things like where to place the hoe on the trailer can make a huge difference. Great post and of course I can't rep you (why can't we buy reps??).

Anyway, if the scales near you, BRay09, are friendly like ours are; As long as they aren't busy they'll let you roll across the scales and tweak some and try again. Pay particular attention to calculating your weight on the rear axle/wheel/tire combo. Weigh the whole rig, roll just your fronts off the scale and get that number and then just roll your rear tires off and get that. Then its just math.

I ended up creating an exel spreadsheet as we had all sorts of variables with the camper, trailer, tongue extension, etc.... Good luck to you!

 

I can't speak to the legality of it, but I can tell you your truck will handle that back how just fine. I hauled my 55 hp New Holland tractor with a loader and 7ft bushhog on my 28ft dual tandem gooseneck trailer about 30 miles today. It was the first heavy haul I have done with a 6.0 truck, and I was pretty impressed.