DTC codes P1209 & P1211
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DTC codes P1209 & P1211
I have a 2002 F250 7.3L with 238k that has been running normally until a couple of days ago. This truck has had routine maintenance since I bought it 2003 with 50k on it. At start up, the idle is all over the place, high then low, jerks and lunges when you put it in gear, it's not even drive worthy. I was getting it ready for a trip to the stealer for some recall issues, and before disconnecting the programmer it gave me DTC codes P1209 and P1211. Injector control pressure system? Anybody know where this thing is and can a somewhat savy amatuer repair/replace it?
I have a recall on the cam sensor and the speed control, but I haven't been in to get those fixed yet. Are these possibly related to the recalls? Makes me want to....!!!!!!!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Steve
Midland, TX
I have a recall on the cam sensor and the speed control, but I haven't been in to get those fixed yet. Are these possibly related to the recalls? Makes me want to....!!!!!!!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Steve
Midland, TX
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From the manual :
KE15 CONTINUOUS DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE (DTC) P1211, P1209
DTC P1209 and P1211 indicates that injection control pressure was above or below desired level under normal driving conditions.
Possible causes:
incorrect oil or viscosity
poor oil quality
gel fuel/no fuel
low fuel pressure
damaged IPR valve
high-pressure oil system leak
damaged high-pressure oil pump
damaged PCM
Verify correct oil quality/viscosity and correct fuel grade are being used for the temperature conditions.
KE15 CONTINUOUS DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE (DTC) P1211, P1209
DTC P1209 and P1211 indicates that injection control pressure was above or below desired level under normal driving conditions.
Possible causes:
incorrect oil or viscosity
poor oil quality
gel fuel/no fuel
low fuel pressure
damaged IPR valve
high-pressure oil system leak
damaged high-pressure oil pump
damaged PCM
Verify correct oil quality/viscosity and correct fuel grade are being used for the temperature conditions.
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the PCM is the Powertrain control module.. the brain that controls every thing ..On the drivers side head , right near the lifting ring , is the ICP sensor . Unplug it & look for oil seeping from it ..While it is unplugged , start the motor , see if it improves
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Unplug the Injection control pressure sensor. It's on the driver's side cylinder head between the high pressure oil pump and the engine lifting loop. 3 wires arranged in a round connector. If it runs better with it unplugged, there's your problem.
Check the tin nut on the back of the injection pressure regulator if the first suggestion doesn't work. It's on the back of the high pressure oil pump near the bottom of the pump facing backwards. If the nut is loose, you need to tighten it.
Check the tin nut on the back of the injection pressure regulator if the first suggestion doesn't work. It's on the back of the high pressure oil pump near the bottom of the pump facing backwards. If the nut is loose, you need to tighten it.
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#8
Post #17 is the one you want
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-please-2.html
unplug the ICP and see if the idle improves. Also check for oil in the plug.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-please-2.html
unplug the ICP and see if the idle improves. Also check for oil in the plug.
#10
Sounds oil related to me too. A good place to start is unplugging the ICP connector and see if the idle smooths out.
The problem is your IPR is opening and closing causing the up and down idle issue. Either the ICP circled above is feeding it false info making it act crazy, or the IPR has some junk in it or a torn o-ring or something that is making it act funny.
The problem is your IPR is opening and closing causing the up and down idle issue. Either the ICP circled above is feeding it false info making it act crazy, or the IPR has some junk in it or a torn o-ring or something that is making it act funny.
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#12
Sounds oil related to me too. A good place to start is unplugging the ICP connector and see if the idle smooths out.
The problem is your IPR is opening and closing causing the up and down idle issue. Either the ICP circled above is feeding it false info making it act crazy, or the IPR has some junk in it or a torn o-ring or something that is making it act funny.
The problem is your IPR is opening and closing causing the up and down idle issue. Either the ICP circled above is feeding it false info making it act crazy, or the IPR has some junk in it or a torn o-ring or something that is making it act funny.
I pulled the connector off of the IPC sensor and it was soaked in oil. It still sounded rough
when I started it without the connector plugged in. I cleaned the connector off a little but could not get oil out of the connector ports. Plugged connector back in and it started the high low game again. Do you think I need to replace the IPC and connector? Do they sell those together?
Steve
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Chris,
I pulled the connector off of the IPC sensor and it was soaked in oil. It still sounded rough
when I started it without the connector plugged in. I cleaned the connector off a little but could not get oil out of the connector ports. Plugged connector back in and it started the high low game again. Do you think I need to replace the IPC and connector? Do they sell those together?
Steve
I pulled the connector off of the IPC sensor and it was soaked in oil. It still sounded rough
when I started it without the connector plugged in. I cleaned the connector off a little but could not get oil out of the connector ports. Plugged connector back in and it started the high low game again. Do you think I need to replace the IPC and connector? Do they sell those together?
Steve
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