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Old 06-17-2010, 04:19 PM
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Ford C6 Small Block and C6 Diesel?

Does the C6 that came on the small block ford have the same bolt/bell housing pattern as the diesel C6?

I am looking into buying a Perkins 1104C and Pheonix Machine sells the adapters for a C6 but he didn't know if the bolt patterns were the same.

Or does anyone else know of a company that makes an adapter for the SAE 3 or SAE 4 housings on the Perkins?

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Old 06-17-2010, 04:24 PM
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no the diesel c6 is a difrent bellhousing

this question gets asked daily a quick search would have turned it up
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There are at least three different Ford transmission bellhousing bolt-patterns:
1) small-block
2) big-block
3) diesel (for the 6.9 IDI, the 7.3 IDI, and also 7.3 PSD)

I dunno know what the FE-series engines have, considering they were commonly used in medium-duty trucks I suspect it's the big-block pattern but I ain't sure.

About the adapter, I would not expect it to be of the diesel bolt-pattern, as those transmissions are somewhat rare as compared to the millions of small-block and big-block gassers out there - if I were to build an adapter, I'd use one of those for ease of interchanging, never the diesel-specific bolt-pattern - heck if it were up to me there wouldn't be a diesel-specific patter to begin with, I'd have made the diesels run the big-block pattern.
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Keep in mind whatever trans you go with you'll need a diesel specific torque converter, and valve body due to the lower rpm torque of a diesel.
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All Diesels should have a SAE bell housing.

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Do you guys think I can swap my torque convertor and vavle body over to a big block or small block C6?
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Should be able to, the only real difference is the bell housing.

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I personally wouldn't bother with the VB, but instead just put a shift kit in whatever trans you get - the factory adjustments of the VBs are hardly ever ideal for durability anyways, instead they're geared more towards smoothness cause that's what most folks want out of an automatic (hence the term a "slushbox").
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My understanding is if you take the ford adapter plate/starter ring, you end up with SAE #.
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My understanding is if you take the ford adapter plate/starter ring, you end up with SAE #.
That's what I thought too, but more knowledgeable folks say it ain't true, you need another adapter plate for the SAE bell patterns.
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I dunno know what the FE-series engines have, considering they were commonly used in medium-duty trucks I suspect it's the big-block pattern but I ain't sure.
they had yet a totally different block/trans pattern.big block,but different pattern all together than say the latter 351M/400/429/460 big block bolt pattern.
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ford bellhousings only match the family motors that were originally bolted to the trans.. windsor to windsor, FE to FE, etc etc
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This is one thing chebby has going for them in the yesteryears: you could put the same tranny behind anything, 4 banger, v6, v8 big or small block.
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That's what I thought too, but more knowledgeable folks say it ain't true, you need another adapter plate for the SAE bell patterns.
This is what I understood as well, don't personally know yet!

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i dont get why they didnt do the automatic and 5spd like they did the 4spd.... removable bell housings. that way you can just swap the tranny out and keep your bolt pattern.
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