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Old 06-06-2010, 05:46 AM
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New motor and tranny not quite right

Hello all,
I recently put a new long block (302) and auto trans into my 91 f150. Got it back and it ran horribly. Stalling, no power, black soot pouring from the tailpipes and 4 mpg when I could keep it running. Checked the fuel pressure regulator and it was bad. Replaced it and truck stopped stalling, but still had terrible fuel mileage and no power. I advanced the timing quite a bit by ear to compensate. Checked the o2 and it was shot from the regulator dumping fuel. Changed the o2 and map sensor. Fuel mileage went up to about 9 mpg and it is driveable at freeway speeds now, but still smells rich, and doesn't have the power it had before the swap. Does anyone have any ideas because I am fresh out! Would over advancing the timing rob me of power?

I've sunk over $4000 into this truck to have a strong running and reliable pickup at this point and i am worse off than before. I would really appreciate any advice or thoughts you might have. I'm at my whits end at this point.

Thanks All,

Jack
 
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tattooedmick
Hello all,
I recently put a new long block (302) and auto trans into my 91 f150. Got it back and it ran horribly. Stalling, no power, black soot pouring from the tailpipes and 4 mpg when I could keep it running. Checked the fuel pressure regulator and it was bad. Replaced it and truck stopped stalling, but still had terrible fuel mileage and no power. I advanced the timing quite a bit by ear to compensate. Checked the o2 and it was shot from the regulator dumping fuel. Changed the o2 and map sensor. Fuel mileage went up to about 9 mpg and it is driveable at freeway speeds now, but still smells rich, and doesn't have the power it had before the swap. Does anyone have any ideas because I am fresh out! Would over advancing the timing rob me of power?

I've sunk over $4000 into this truck to have a strong running and reliable pickup at this point and i am worse off than before. I would really appreciate any advice or thoughts you might have. I'm at my whits end at this point.

Thanks All,

Jack
Any time you replace a sensor, disconnect the battery for 5 mins. I would run error code scans first, at least the KOEO scan if possible. Replacing parts w/o E/C scans is like making all your shots from the 3-point line. After you're now knee deep in replacement parts, it's tempting to think your shot percentage has to improve because there aren't that many left. But, $22. will almost painlessly get you a lot closer to making the right shot. A real time & money saver! http://www.handsontools.com/Equus-In...ol_p_5574.html You can do in manually, counting flashes, but for a few bucks, digital numeric display w/ memory! All fords 81'-95 EEC-IV/OBD-1.
 
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ymeski56
Any time you replace a sensor, disconnect the battery for 5 mins. I would run error code scans first, at least the KOEO scan if possible. Replacing parts w/o E/C scans is like making all your shots from the 3-point line. After you're now knee deep in replacement parts, it's tempting to think your shot percentage has to improve because there aren't that many left. But, $22. will almost painlessly get you a lot closer to making the right shot. A real time & money saver! Equus Innova 3145 OBD-I Ford Scan Tool You can do in manually, counting flashes, but for a few bucks, digital numeric display w/ memory! All fords 81'-95 EEC-IV/OBD-1.


I'm gonna get one of them for my 92, do you think that I should get the extension?
 
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:40 AM
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I'm gonna get one of them for my 92, do you think that I should get the extension?
If you have an extra $22., burning a hole in your pocket. Not required, but nice to have!
 
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I've tried running both the koeo and koer using my Solus Pro. And it tells me that there is no power detected at the harness. I forgot about pulling the leads though, that's a great idea. I will try it and post results. Obviously, there's a break in the wiring harness leading to the obd1 connector, I will also try running that down when I get to the shop tomorrow.

Thanks for the feedback! Keep 'em coming please, neither I nor my mechanics can figure this one out. Does anyone know the flash sequence for pulling the codes through the dash ?

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Ford Fuel Injection How To Run a Self-Test Here is how to pull the codes without a code reader if that is what you mean.
I would also check for a restricted exhaust (plugged cat), if not already done.
 
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Thanks, I appreciate the info and the link. To your knowledge, will over advanced timing cause the kinds of issues I am talking about?
 
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Too much timing could hurt power but it would be from preignition and that will be audible.
 
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I don't hear any knock, and it's not missing. It just is way under powered. I'm going to try to pull the codes tonight.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Too much timing could hurt power but it would be from preignition and that will be audible.
So could not enough.
 
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