Got my F150 Today!
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Got my F150 Today!
I just purchased an 86 F-150 SWB Regular cab with 300 and 4 speed, 4x4. I got it for $500 and am working on getting it in good shape. I noticed on the way home, it has A/C but it doesn't work. The blower doesn't even really blow hard out of the vents. I'm thinking about $500 should replace all of the A/C components, but what should I do about the blower?
Also, neither the temp or fuel gauge work. Would that be related to the gauges or something else? I thought since they were on top of each other, it may be the gauge cluster.
Also, neither the temp or fuel gauge work. Would that be related to the gauges or something else? I thought since they were on top of each other, it may be the gauge cluster.
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One word of warning. You need to figure out how everything works, and then repair whats needed. If you install all new parts, and it still doesn't work, you will be disappointed, and I can pretty much guarantee that's what's going to happen. A few days of research on the internet should get you up to speed on the A/C system, and you can decide if you can deal with it or not.
If I were to guess on your air flow problem, it would be there is a bunch of junk down in the vent system, and the A/C core inside the black box is clogged with trash and possibly even a mouse nest. It's a little bit of work, but if you take all the bolts loose under the hood and I believe I remember there was a few under the dash, and pull the housing off under the hood, you may find watches, pencils, and the A/C core clogged. I cleaned this stuff out of my system, and believe me, these trucks do not need any help in the HVAC department when it's all unclogged and working.
If I were to guess on your air flow problem, it would be there is a bunch of junk down in the vent system, and the A/C core inside the black box is clogged with trash and possibly even a mouse nest. It's a little bit of work, but if you take all the bolts loose under the hood and I believe I remember there was a few under the dash, and pull the housing off under the hood, you may find watches, pencils, and the A/C core clogged. I cleaned this stuff out of my system, and believe me, these trucks do not need any help in the HVAC department when it's all unclogged and working.
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If you really plan on keeping an fixing up the truck, then you should check into getting the shop manual from Helm Inc.
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Welcome to the forum,Superred2!
Do inexpensive things first. Regarding poor air flow from the vents, as Franklin2 said, it could be trash or a varment nest. After raising your hood, take the negative cable off the battery. Next, look to the left and near the firewall, and you will see the backside of the blower motor. It bolts into the duct work. There are 4 (I believe) screws which hold it in place. One of the screws will have a clamp holding the two wires powering the fan. Carefully unplug the electrical connection and then the screws. The fan will now come out. Be careful, there is a foam gasket which might crumble. They are still available at Ford, but you can make one with household window weatherstripping.
Now, with a glove on [safety], reach through the round opening as far as you can to the right [probably 18+ inches] and you most likely will find 25 years worth of ground leaves and maybe, if lucky a critter nest. Pull all of this out. Once clean, you will actually be able to touch the A/C condensor. Now do the same while reaching left. Leaves go that way to what is left of what would have been a kick panel fresh air vent, if your truck had not been equiped with factory A/C. By removing, you help prevent mold and rust. Replace the blower assembly [with gasket], connect the wires and battery cable [a good time to clean battery connections, if needed] and you are good to go!
This may take about 1 hour, but will not cost anything. Good luck!
Do inexpensive things first. Regarding poor air flow from the vents, as Franklin2 said, it could be trash or a varment nest. After raising your hood, take the negative cable off the battery. Next, look to the left and near the firewall, and you will see the backside of the blower motor. It bolts into the duct work. There are 4 (I believe) screws which hold it in place. One of the screws will have a clamp holding the two wires powering the fan. Carefully unplug the electrical connection and then the screws. The fan will now come out. Be careful, there is a foam gasket which might crumble. They are still available at Ford, but you can make one with household window weatherstripping.
Now, with a glove on [safety], reach through the round opening as far as you can to the right [probably 18+ inches] and you most likely will find 25 years worth of ground leaves and maybe, if lucky a critter nest. Pull all of this out. Once clean, you will actually be able to touch the A/C condensor. Now do the same while reaching left. Leaves go that way to what is left of what would have been a kick panel fresh air vent, if your truck had not been equiped with factory A/C. By removing, you help prevent mold and rust. Replace the blower assembly [with gasket], connect the wires and battery cable [a good time to clean battery connections, if needed] and you are good to go!
This may take about 1 hour, but will not cost anything. Good luck!
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Thanks 1986F150six! I'm planning on getting that done tonight and will let you know what I find. I am going to look at the sensors next as they may be just unplugged. I've pulled the doors apart and painted the inner panels and replaced all of the weather stripping around the window glass and replaced the speakers while I was in there. I also replaced the grill with a factory new one I picked up on Ebay for $16.00! I have to fix the rear sliding glass, the A/C, I think I'm going to get the carb rebuilt and that should do it.
I really love the truck and I plan on keeping it for a while.
I really love the truck and I plan on keeping it for a while.
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Thanks 1986F150six! I'm planning on getting that done tonight and will let you know what I find. I am going to look at the sensors next as they may be just unplugged. I've pulled the doors apart and painted the inner panels and replaced all of the weather stripping around the window glass and replaced the speakers while I was in there. I also replaced the grill with a factory new one I picked up on Ebay for $16.00! I have to fix the rear sliding glass, the A/C, I think I'm going to get the carb rebuilt and that should do it.
I really love the truck and I plan on keeping it for a while.
I really love the truck and I plan on keeping it for a while.
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i actually got the kit off of Ebay. It was by Precision Weatherstripping and it turned out very nice. I just finished up the passenger door today and it looks great.
Oh yeah, I pulled the fan motor off as suggested by 1986F150six and was he ever right! There was a nest in there that was unbelievable so I pulled it all out and then took the shop vac and vacuumed everything out. It took about an hour and now the air blows strong. It is now time to fix the A/C.
I can spin the compressor with my hand so it doesn't seem to be frozen up. I may take it somewhere and let them throw a charge to it to see if it works. I'm not convinced there is anything wrong with it now, it may just need a charge to be good to go.
One other thing, I've read a tremendous amount about changing carbureators, intakes and etc. I feel like the carb could be rebuilt as it runs rough at idle. It has a manual choke so I know the electronic choke is gone. Should I get it rebuilt, or replace it with something else? I'm not concerned with making it a race truck, I want reliability.
Oh yeah, I pulled the fan motor off as suggested by 1986F150six and was he ever right! There was a nest in there that was unbelievable so I pulled it all out and then took the shop vac and vacuumed everything out. It took about an hour and now the air blows strong. It is now time to fix the A/C.
I can spin the compressor with my hand so it doesn't seem to be frozen up. I may take it somewhere and let them throw a charge to it to see if it works. I'm not convinced there is anything wrong with it now, it may just need a charge to be good to go.
One other thing, I've read a tremendous amount about changing carbureators, intakes and etc. I feel like the carb could be rebuilt as it runs rough at idle. It has a manual choke so I know the electronic choke is gone. Should I get it rebuilt, or replace it with something else? I'm not concerned with making it a race truck, I want reliability.
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On the A/C I suggest pulling the pressure switch connector off the dryer, jump the two wires in the connector, start the motor, turn the A/C on for just a couple seconds... The A/C Compressor clutch should engage and turn the pump... This will give you a better indication of the direction you need to go.
If the clutch works and the compressor sounds good, vacuum it down and hold to test for leaks, no leaks charge it and see what happens.
A good A/C thread: A/C Info
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
If the clutch works and the compressor sounds good, vacuum it down and hold to test for leaks, no leaks charge it and see what happens.
A good A/C thread: A/C Info
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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