If you think I'm gonna edit out my un-favorable comments, because an FTE member owns this horrendous pile...you're mistaken.

I can understand (somewhat) y'all making changes to your Fords...but to take a rare Mercury and turn it into this mess, is an abomination.

 

there the right pics i need the part of the cab that the fenders bolt to as you can see the whole corner is gone and half the door hinge pillar. a guy has a 66 f100 2wd that he will cut the part i need off and sell to me just need to know if that would work or if it's different. my truck is a 64 f100 4x4 that mercury truck don't look bad in my opinion. a shame to do that but something about it catch's my eye.

 

Did Ford stamp a day,month,year manufacturing date on these fenders?? I know that the more recent Fords have stamped date of manufacture on body parts. But did Ford do that on these 61-66 F series??

If not-is there a way to determine originality of body parts on these old Fords??

Love the old original narrow bias ply look of the tires of these preproduction 4x4!! And the adjustable long factory mirrors! Very classic!

I would love to find a factory 4x4 with the originality of those two trucks in the Ford preproduction photos!

 

Damn, they should put some smaller tires on those two 4x4's barf! And the dually should be put out of it's misery IMO, take it out in the woods, tie it to a tree and shoot it!

 

I have seen date stamps on anodized aluminum grilles, but these dates were stamped by the outside supplier, not by FoMoCo.

AFAIK, there are no date stamps on sheet metal.

How do you know what's original and what ain't?

Today, considering all the parts swapping, it can be difficult even for the Big Dummy who spent decades working as a Ford partsman, spent over 50 years in this crazy hobby looking at 1000's of old rolling piles of misery, and has owned 84 FoMoCo vehicles.

Eyeballing Ford's (and Packards), I usually know what parts are correct, what parts are not original as they came from other years/models, but...

It's a crapshoot when it comes to what parts were on the vehicles when they rolled off the assembly line, what same parts were replaced down the road.

 

There are date stamps on many of the sheetmetal parts...the fenders, for example have them on the flange that bolts to the fender apron and the other is on the rear vertical reinforcment brace...they typically are hard to read...but these are all in code though...
IMO, the ones who would be the most familiar with these are the Mustang or Thunderbird folks...
As for parts that are original to your car/truck...its a crapshoot...for the reasons Bill said...
One question though for you Bill...do the Ford Service Parts have these stamps in them typically ?


- cs65

 

I've never seen a date stamp on sheet metal, whether factory installed or Service Part Replacement parts...Mustang/Thunderbird included.

 

Bringing this back, Number Dummy, you said you know of a dismantler who has 6 pairs of the 45" opening 4WD fenders? Would you have a price, contact info or any more information for them? Also I know the 2wd/4wd core support is different, but what about the inner fenders? Same?

 

My 2001 Focus and Mustang has date stamps from the factory on the doors,front fenders and trunk. Usually the month and day.Original body parts.Also has VIN stickers on some body parts.

And my 92 F150 has date stamps on the underside of the hood and front fenders top flange--If I remember correctly. One of the things that I noticed before I bought it.

I don't remember date stamps from the sixties though.

 

all of the newer cars(I forget the start year) have VIN on all of the major components...doors, hoods, etc...The date codes I am referring to are poorly stamped typically for one...but are on all of the major componenets...no VIN type stuff at all...for example, on the fenders of our trucks, the stamp is in 2 spots...the rear vertical reinforcement brace on the inside of the fender assy and on the fender to apron mounting flange typically between the 3rd and 4th or 4th and 5th bolt holes...these are date codes as to when the stamping was done.

- cs65

 

My Mustang is covered with date stampings on nearly every sheet metal panel. Every pickup piece of sheet metal I've seen so far has a date stamping on it somewhere. My original pickup hood was "2 14" followed by a stamping plant code and a shift designation. Happy Valentines Day.
Part of the process of verifying that my 65 Mustang was a factory GT was verifying that the dashboard is stamped with a date that matches the suspected build date of the car, since the dash is different between the non-GT and GT cars.

Here are some examples:
Trunk:

Backwards on the inside of the trunk brace:

Dash:



Top to bottom, there is not a piece of sheet metal on a Mustang that doesn't have a date stamping on it. From what I've seen so far on all the metal I've collected for the pickup, it's exactly the same.

 

Some greedy so and so (it wasn't me), bought all the right side 4WD fenders, all that remains are 4 or 5 left sides.

What year core support is specific to 4WD? None. You have a 1964 F100? If so, the core support is C2TZ16138G: 1961/64 F100/250 2WD/4WD / 1961/66 F350/600 / 1965 F100/250 4WD / 1966 F250 4WD.

C1TZ16054M .. Right Fender Apron / 1961/65 F100/250 4WD / 1961/66 F350/700 / 1966 F250 4WD.

C1TZ16055K .. Left Fender Apron / 1961/64 F100/250 2WD/4WD / 1961/66 F350/700 / 1965 F100/250 4WD / 1966 F250 4WD.
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My reference to VIN numbers was related to mid 1980's and earlier vehicles. The NHTSA mandated beginning in the mid 1980's that automakers had to have VIN's appear on myriad body/mechanical parts to cut down on vehicle thefts.

My 2008 Fusion has dozens of its specific VIN adhered to special decals that are everywhere on the car.

There's prolly dozens more VIN's stamped on mechanical parts, but I've never looked at any of them, including what's under the hood.

I've never raised the hood, and I've owned it since 6/2008. It's under warranty, it's serviced at the dealer (it now has 8,300 miles) and besides, you can barely see the engine under the hood, regardless.

inre to date stamps on sheet metal, I shoulda made no comment, as it seems I'm clueless.

 

I have a 1966 F ( 100 ) factory 4 wd. It has fender like a 66 2wd f100. previous 4wd had the shorter version of fender which has a different inner fender. I think 65 was like old style.

 

1966 F100 4WD's use the 1961/66 2WD front fenders (except with 17" wheels).

C2TZ16005E Right & C2TZ16006E Left.

See post #6 for all the applications these fenders fit.

 

Hope this helps I cant be 100% sure that the fenders were not changed sometime before I bought this truck. I bought it over 20yrs ago so assume that the fenders are correct for the truck. It also had 16" split innie wheels on it when I got it. F250 4x4