I've pretty much dropped off the F-150 radar since I sold my 06 FX4. been focusing on the 05+ Mustang instead.

I want to get back into a F-150...but I want more HP. So it seems a '11 or '12 model is my option. My last F-150 was Supercharged and was a beast. The 5.4 3v bone stock just doesn't cut it for me.

I came across this for the new 5.0 and it got me thinking. Evolution Performance Tunes a 5.0 - They got that puppy at about 450 crank HP with nothing really but tuning...so about $1,000


I would rather have the much discussed and hypothetical 6.2 motor...but damn, the 5.0 apparently has some real *****. If these trucks still have 80-100 HP drivetrain loss like the 04-08's, you are still looking at almost 350 RWHP (after exhaust + tuning) with that badass 6 speed.




any thoughts? or still just a pipe dream?

 

They are going to be putting a 3.5 Ltr V-6 twin turbo in the F-150 and a 5.0 ltr 32 valve V-8 and a 6.1 Ltr I think.
So those are going to be the 3 engines for 2011.
The V-6 is from the SHO
The 5.0 is a new engine for the Mustang as well
The 6.2 or 6.1 is a truck only engine

 

Any word on the HP and torque for each of these new engines in the F-150??

 

The rumor is that the 5.0ltr is going to be the standard workhorse and could be as much as 400 hp and 400ft/lbs of torque.
The 3.5 Twin Turbo is going to be close to that with better fuel mileage. It is the engine that will target people that drive their pickup as the family truckster and don't pull anything with it and don't ever actually use the bed.
Not sure on the 6.1 Lter

 

Kind of thought that they would use the new 6.2 that's in the new super duty for the third engine. I will be using my truck to tow a medium sized camper and snowmobile trailer with sleds. I think the 5.0 will be my ticket, hope the mileage is reasonable.

 

I suspect the Coyote engine (5.0) to be quite a bit detuned from the Mustang platform for a few reasons...
1. It can't compete with the 6.2 in terms of power.. and it would.
2. They want a "middle" engine. (think 5.4, 4.6 3v and 4.6 2v)
3. The 5.0 Coyote engine, depending on its prowess (torque curve and such), won't be a great truck motor in that form.

With that said, all 3 motors look promising, and other than people not wanting a V6 in their truck to do a V8's job, it should be among the best in the 1/2 market.

There's a video of what a 6.2l 2011 SD can do 0-60 or so and it flat out hauls!

-rockstate

 

I doubt they will detune the 5.0 much if any honestly.

I can see the EB being the bottom line motor since it will offer decent MPG's and acceptable HP.

If Ford sticks true to form, the EB will be somewhere in the 350-360 HP range, the 5.0 will have the same 414 HP as the Mustang, and the 6.2 will have somewhere in the 450 HP range.



Just wish they would put up some info on the line-up. The 5.0 is apparently a real demon straight off the showroom floor.

 

I've read rumored reports that say this:

Base engine: 3.7L V-6
Upgrade 5.0L V-8 350/350
Premium upgrade 3.5L Ecoboost V-6 400/400

Mod motors will be phased out or completely eliminated.

Raptor and Harley trucks will get the 6.2L initially with a hopeful entrance to the remainder of the fleet in the future.

The ecoboost trucks shouldn't be discounted as soccer mom trucks by any means. They are supposed to deliver the grunt of a small V-8 with the mpg's of a V-6. The 3.5L EB is reported as getting 25% better mpg's than the 5.4L 3V.

I don't have the hard facts to back this post up but previous posters have put up links from motor trend, trucks.com and other sources.

 

Only the EB has been confirmed as of now in the non-Raptor F-150's. The Raptor has had the 6.2 option since Early this year. It is expected that tht 5.0 and 6.2 (not 6.1 as stated previously) will be offered, with the 6.2 in upper trim levels. The 6.2 in the Raptor has different cams and/or phasing than the super duty motor and is expected to be different in regular F-150 trim too. The anticipated 5.0 for trucks has no other predecessor than the Mustang version, so many people are assuming it will be detuned a bit for truck use.
In any case, I believe all new motors (if they are all three offered) will offer something for everyone.

 

The 5.0 in the magazine test is amazing and makes me want a Mustang, but having monster horsepower at 6500 rpm is almost useless for a truck. You're not going to be pulling a loaded truck with a big trailer up a mountain with the engine spinning at 6000.... Ford should, and probably will, retune the engine for much lower torque and horsepower peaks in the trucks. The kind of power you need in a performance car is way different from what you need in a truck.

I'm guessing the mod motors will live on in the vans at minimum.

George

 

I agree with the comments below mine.

I don't htink the 6.2 will make 450 hp as it makes only 411 in the raptor (and about 340 at the rear wheels if my memory serves me correctly).

More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP - ford raptor - Jalopnik

If ford left only the 5.0 in the F150 as it's high engine, it still hasn't even surpassed what motor is in my Tundra (381/401 lb ft).

Ford NEEDS the 6.2 to be in the ball game and I believe HANDS down that the Ford is a better truck than the Toyota, even with the gutless 5.4 (I can say that b/c we've owned 2 '98 Expeditions and 2 '99 Expeditions, and now 2 new Sport Tracs). However, for the guys that need raw POWER, the 5.0 won't get the job done like the 6.2 can.

If Ford doesn't want to be laughed at for introducing a brand new engine, later than everybody else, with the least amount of power, they need to put the 6.2 in their truck no later than '11. By '12 or '13, manufacturers are going to be back to the drawing board. GM is fairly long in the toof for a redesign and the Dodge honestly won't be too far behind by then. Toyota is the same, but with the major problems they're having with the Tundra (think $3K repair for a stupid air injection pump), they better ***** or get off the pot or they'll be TKO'd for the next round.

-rockstate

 

Ford seems to be awfully tight lipped about every motor for the F-150 except the Ecoboost.

In my mind, the 6.2L will drive a ton of sales, they need to get this out soon. But then again, advertising engines too early could stymie sales for the 2010 year. Either way, I'm waiting.

 

From what I understand, the 5.0 is going the be the workhorse engine and the 6.2 is for the people who buck up for the premium packages and the heavy tow package.
Pulling with a twin turbo engine is a bit more complicated due to egts. That little engine would really be pushed very hard to do what the v-8s will do. You can only slam so much boost to the engine before the head gaskets become an issue.

From what the Ford dealer told me, was that it was going to be for people that don't use their truck for towing and more as a family vehicle.

 

Your Ford dealer can speculate too.

In my mind a EB with 400 hp and more tq will not be a "Family hauler".

I think if it outperforms the comeptitions large V8s then most won't care that its a V6.

Don't think it will hold up? We'll wait and see. It gets all the testing the V8s do and then some, why wouldn't it?

RED-HOT TORTURE: NEW ECOBOOST ENGINE?S TURBOCHARGERS GLOW IN DURABILITY TESTING | Ford Motor Company Newsroom

 

They said the 6.0 diesel would do the same as the 7.3 and it didn't hold up as well at all.
Longevity and repair costs are going to be in question when you start trying to turn that kind of power from that small of package.
in a light car like an SHO, you won't have much of an issue, because they won't pull sustained heavy loads like they will in a pickup. For a highway runner, it might be good idea. Time will tell.