The Deepwater Horizon Disaster
#16
Did I miss something when this incident first occurred?
I thought the Deepwater Horizon was not in actual production phase. How is this going to affect gas prices? Now....If one of the very few REFINERIES went out of service, that would be different. Even if it were production, it's spewing what.....5000 barrels/day? Hardly a dent vis-a-vis oil production.
It's an ecological disaster....But I'm not seeing how it's a price-at-the-pump disaster......
I thought the Deepwater Horizon was not in actual production phase. How is this going to affect gas prices? Now....If one of the very few REFINERIES went out of service, that would be different. Even if it were production, it's spewing what.....5000 barrels/day? Hardly a dent vis-a-vis oil production.
It's an ecological disaster....But I'm not seeing how it's a price-at-the-pump disaster......
#17
Their excuse before was Katrina. Their excuse this time will be the cost of cleaning and trying to stop this leak. It does not matter if a rig is operational or not. If the oil company has to spend money, pay lawsuits, and face fines; they will not make a profit.
The state of Louisiana is run by these oil tycoons. The buck is going to have to be re-cooped.
The state of Louisiana is run by these oil tycoons. The buck is going to have to be re-cooped.
#19
Asian shrimp farming did more to weaken American shrimp harvesting than any hurricane or oil spill. I grew up in Carteret County, NC. That's shrimp central.
All I know is, I am MORE than willing to pay a higher price for 'native' shrimp. Maybe it's 'cause I grew up on the coast, but I just can't abide farm-raised stuff......Except in casseroles or something where the taste is masked a little. You just can't duplicate the wild caught taste. No way.
I just don't see why the couldn't get it capped soon. I'm positive I'm an ignoramus vis-a-vis actual oil drilling operations....But don't they consider this s--t? I'm mean drilling and pumping oil at high pressure....Accidents, vapors, chemicals....blah-blah-blah....Sometimes stuff goes 'boom'.......It's like this came out of the blue and the big boys are saying....'damn.....don't know what we can do....we might git 'er stopped up in a few months'!.....
WTH?!!!???
All I know is, I am MORE than willing to pay a higher price for 'native' shrimp. Maybe it's 'cause I grew up on the coast, but I just can't abide farm-raised stuff......Except in casseroles or something where the taste is masked a little. You just can't duplicate the wild caught taste. No way.
I just don't see why the couldn't get it capped soon. I'm positive I'm an ignoramus vis-a-vis actual oil drilling operations....But don't they consider this s--t? I'm mean drilling and pumping oil at high pressure....Accidents, vapors, chemicals....blah-blah-blah....Sometimes stuff goes 'boom'.......It's like this came out of the blue and the big boys are saying....'damn.....don't know what we can do....we might git 'er stopped up in a few months'!.....
WTH?!!!???
#20
All I know is, I am MORE than willing to pay a higher price for 'native' shrimp. Maybe it's 'cause I grew up on the coast, but I just can't abide farm-raised stuff......Except in casseroles or something where the taste is masked a little. You just can't duplicate the wild caught taste. No way.
I just don't see why the couldn't get it capped soon. I'm positive I'm an ignoramus vis-a-vis actual oil drilling operations....But don't they consider this s--t? I'm mean drilling and pumping oil at high pressure....Accidents, vapors, chemicals....blah-blah-blah....Sometimes stuff goes 'boom'.......It's like this came out of the blue and the big boys are saying....'damn.....don't know what we can do....we might git 'er stopped up in a few months'!.....
WTH?!!!???
I just don't see why the couldn't get it capped soon. I'm positive I'm an ignoramus vis-a-vis actual oil drilling operations....But don't they consider this s--t? I'm mean drilling and pumping oil at high pressure....Accidents, vapors, chemicals....blah-blah-blah....Sometimes stuff goes 'boom'.......It's like this came out of the blue and the big boys are saying....'damn.....don't know what we can do....we might git 'er stopped up in a few months'!.....
WTH?!!!???
Maybe this was all Toyota trying to get the focus off the publics dinner plate.
#21
Here is interview with a first hand account of what happened by someone who was on the rig when things went wrong
Well worth listening to....
Mark’s Exclusive Interview with a Survivor from the Oil Rig Explosion
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I hope you listen to the interview, then say this afterwards..
Well worth listening to....
Mark’s Exclusive Interview with a Survivor from the Oil Rig Explosion
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I hope you listen to the interview, then say this afterwards..
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A word for the oil industry here. All offshore drilling and production is conducted under the supervision of the MMS (Minerals Management Service.) An agency of the Department of Interior. Offshore well control technology is the best available and it is regularly inspected and tested. MMS representatives regularly helicopter in to offshore drilling and production platforms unannounced to inspect records and witness testing of safely devices. There is no other industy with this much transparency.
As far as preparedness, oil platforms have spill boom reels and small boats to deploy them around a spill. If the platform has a tender boat, it too can be used to deploy spill booms. Spill drills are conducted regularly. Oil companies fund spill response companies that are on duty and on call to repond to oil spills with boom boats, booms, shoreline cleaning equipment and the labor force to deploy it all.
The Deepwater Horizon disaster is on par with the space shuttle Columbia disaster. Both are colosal failures of technology. But Challenger didn't stop us from space exploration and Deepwater Horizon shouldn't stop us from oil exploration. Whether the errors were mechanical or human, we should not rush to judgement before the facts are known.
As far as preparedness, oil platforms have spill boom reels and small boats to deploy them around a spill. If the platform has a tender boat, it too can be used to deploy spill booms. Spill drills are conducted regularly. Oil companies fund spill response companies that are on duty and on call to repond to oil spills with boom boats, booms, shoreline cleaning equipment and the labor force to deploy it all.
The Deepwater Horizon disaster is on par with the space shuttle Columbia disaster. Both are colosal failures of technology. But Challenger didn't stop us from space exploration and Deepwater Horizon shouldn't stop us from oil exploration. Whether the errors were mechanical or human, we should not rush to judgement before the facts are known.
#23
A word for the oil industry here. All offshore drilling and production is conducted under the supervision of the MMS (Minerals Management Service.) An agency of the Department of Interior. Offshore well control technology is the best available and it is regularly inspected and tested. MMS representatives regularly helicopter in to offshore drilling and production platforms unannounced to inspect records and witness testing of safely devices. There is no other industy with this much transparency.
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Sounds like those buy's on the platform had there act together...except for one ity bity thing thing....
MOTHER NATURE...
#24
Shorebird; Thanks for taking the time and effort to update the rest of the nation on this disaster, Being from the state of Washington we are far from the disaster and get very little information, except what they want to tell us on national news. I feel for you folks that are affected by this. Please continue to update as much as you can.Some of us do care what is happening in our nation...
#25
I will agree totally. The lack of preparedness by the oil people is disturbing. As long as this industry has been in place, with todays technology, this should not be the mess it has become. They have been lax on their end for maintaining and improving safeguards.
Maybe this was all Toyota trying to get the focus off the publics dinner plate.
Maybe this was all Toyota trying to get the focus off the publics dinner plate.
RIGZONE - Deepwater Horizon Incident
If safety infractions need to be harped on, lets talk about all the mine incidents, and the people being killed there from blatant safety infractions that are ignored continuously time and again.
One other thing. Rigzone is a good site to check out for the facts without the political spin and wizzing contest between everyone "in the know".
steps off soapbox.
#26
Truth????? Fiction????? Flat out untruth???????? An attempt to 'ration' what he has and sell for the same price???
I don't know, for sure.
I know that for the forseeable future, there won't be any more Sweet-n-Sour Shrimp being ordered, by me.
Lo Mein or some other tasty dish will have to do.
#28
Just want to say, This has educated me.
Thanks horsepuller and big daddy. I have not really listened to the news lately, the words I type are just my opinion. I have no problem with rigs out in the gulf or adding more. I just feel that a rig is a huge money maker and I am sure can be a money pit. I still think it is wrong to say it was just an accident. This is not like a kid falling of his bike in the street. It seems that the big corporations responsible do not know how to fix their mess. 11 people are gone, and the people whose lives are dependent on the gulf for work to provide for their families are screwed. Like I said before, this is not the line of work to say "oops." and all is okay. Their will be tons of finger pointing over this, but in the end bp is responsible. The culmination of so many oops or mistakes or accidents is not right in my book. They appear to have know plan for stopping this mess right now.
Thanks horsepuller and big daddy. I have not really listened to the news lately, the words I type are just my opinion. I have no problem with rigs out in the gulf or adding more. I just feel that a rig is a huge money maker and I am sure can be a money pit. I still think it is wrong to say it was just an accident. This is not like a kid falling of his bike in the street. It seems that the big corporations responsible do not know how to fix their mess. 11 people are gone, and the people whose lives are dependent on the gulf for work to provide for their families are screwed. Like I said before, this is not the line of work to say "oops." and all is okay. Their will be tons of finger pointing over this, but in the end bp is responsible. The culmination of so many oops or mistakes or accidents is not right in my book. They appear to have know plan for stopping this mess right now.
#30
Thanks to all who have added to it.
I am hearing rumors of (conspiracy theory alert) sabotage. I mean, this tragedy happened the day before Eart Day... hmmmm. I'm sure the tinfoil hats will be out enforce before too long.
However, it seems to me that it was a particularly bad accident. Fail safes are added to prevent things, but- and someone please correct me if I'm wrong- fail safes need to be tested in a practical environment, right? They work in theory, but how can you test for something this big?