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Here's what a '52 looks like with the 215 and linkage mounted to the firewall. Stu
Hmmmm.... my 52 doesn't have those... just holes, unless they are threaded larger than the size of the stanchions that slide thru.
 
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I don't have my pictures handy, but another difference between '51 and '52 is the knock-out's for the heater hoses. They were rearranged for '52. I've got pics of both. I'll see if I can find them later.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Hmmmm.... my 52 doesn't have those... just holes, unless they are threaded larger than the size of the stanchions that slide thru.
Ross - Does yours have the indented areas around each of the holes. I didn't check the bolt size, but would guess the insert (is stanchion the correct term?) takes something like a 5/16 x 24 bolt.

Thanks for the tip on the heater hoses. I'll look at them in the morning. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
Ross - Does yours have the indented areas around each of the holes. I didn't check the bolt size, but would guess the insert (is stanchion the correct term?) takes something like a 5/16 x 24 bolt.

Thanks for the tip on the heater hoses. I'll look at them in the morning. Stu
Doesn't appear to be indented. The stanchion is the eye-bolt like piece that the throttle shaft rides in. Has a cup on the inside and a nut.

PS -- looks like I need to give that a shot of oil LOL!
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
Here's what a '52 looks like with the 215 and linkage mounted to the firewall. Stu
Stu,

Thank you for the picture. I need it for reference when I go to connect everything in my 52. The PO put a flathead V8 in it when it's supposed to have an OHV.
 
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Forward of the firewall is all GM.........??????!!!!!!????

I'm....I'm....STUNNED!
 
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Yes indeed. Heater hose locations are different '51 vs. '52. Below are pics. Also, going back to the pic of the 215 firewall and linkage, you can see in that pic the two blanking plugs that are still in place where the V8 linkage would have otherwise been mounted. The first pic is heater hose location on a '51, then the '52. Looks like solenoid location is different too. Stu
 
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That's a very interesting little tidbit Stu! Another little bit of shared knowledge.

But I'm still stunned.
 
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new old question

Hey Folks,

This vin number business has me wondering on my truck as well.
Glove box says 51, hood and upper valence some say is 52.

the heater hose run and a few other suggestions kinda confusing as to what I've got.

I know my Trucks been fiddled with, so I need to search the frame for a vin stamping. Does anyone have any photos of where to search withtout having to clean the whole frame?
My Frame old flaky paint needs scraping yes, but didnt really want to get into that just yet.

From what I've read so far, either driver or passenger side frame rails,
but would that be in the engine bay side or the outside of the frame?
by the shock mounts?

Just curious, and not wanting to start a 3rd leg of this project before I get done a few things first....(trying not to make same mistake I did on the 66 Mustang, in 3 months I had that thing in buckets of parts!)

Thanks yall.

T
 
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Generally located on the passenger side frame rail just forward of the motor mount diagonal. Should be able to see it by leaning in over the fender. Here's one of mine. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
Generally located on the passenger side frame rail just forward of the motor mount diagonal. Should be able to see if by leaning in over the fender. Here's one of mine. Stu

Ah, good to know (see it by leaning over fender) the TOP of the frame.

Thank you Stu!

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It has probably been mentioned, but I had to REALLY scrape that frame to find evidence of a stamped VIN. Then, once I found one end of it, the rest was pretty easy to uncover. I did not believe there was a number stamped in the frame, it was that well hidden by gunk.
 
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A quick way to differentiate 51 and 52 is to look at the frame struts where the engine mounts sit. Look here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11357016
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
A quick way to differentiate 51 and 52 is to look at the frame struts where the engine mounts sit. Look here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11357016
Thank you!

Well that confirms it then I've got a 51 at least by these pictures.

Crazy thing is,
Glove box vin starts: F1R1 (hi number 24xxx range consec unit #)
Frame stamp says : F1R2 (very low 13xxx consec unit #)

Maybe I have a Late 51 build that used some 52 parts?
a prev wrecked truck that was rebuilt? WHO KNOWS.

I dont have it in front of me but If my glove box vin tag is original to the truck, I wonder if the build production code would put a time frame on it?
anybody know how to decipher those?

Seems If I rem correctly Ford gave the months of the year a "letter" code system.
Like: "K" for november or somthing......

And my Ford parts manual I have shows my Vin tag and states that Sept 51 the Vin tag changed to represent the one in the books photo.
So my guess if all is correct to the truck I'm ballparking Sept, Oct build.

Not sure when they actually flipped over to 52 production, heck I'm still
trying to take it all in that I've started yet another project!!


the Mystery continues!

Thanks all,

T
 
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My old Brit car friends would call it a "bitsa". Bits of this one, bits of that one. The frame number is what matters. The glove box tag is easy to move from one truck to another. Nothing unusual, pretty much every restored/refurbished truck out there has been helped by one or more donors. To me what matters is that the paper matches the frame. You can get replacement glove box tags from places like A.G. Backeast. I got one from him for the truck in my signature block. Stu
 


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