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Old 04-15-2010, 10:44 AM
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Confused EGR & Oil Cooler

<style></style>Ok I'm a little confused. My EOT is reading about 10 to 15 degrees hotter than my ECT. So I know the fuse is lit and I'm on borrowed time.I want to do an EGR Delete and rebuild the oil cooler. Now if I do the EGR Delete how does the oil cooler work. What keeps the oil cool??? Is there anything else I must do??? I know I need a oil cooler rebuild kit (3C3Z-6A642-CA) HPOP Filter Screen (3C3Z-6C683-AB) I am thinking about the Sinister EGR Delete Kit (SD-EGRD01) Is there anything else I will need besides 15 Qts Oil; Oil Filter; 2 Iron Cleaner ZC-9; 3 Gal. of Premiun Gold Engine Coolant or GO-5 Antifreeze & 15 gal.Distilled Water. Thanks Rocky


 
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An intake gasket kit might not me a bad Idea... especially the large donut o-ring in between the intake and coolant manifold. unfortunately the large donut oring only comes in the intake gasket kit...

The oil cooler and egr cooler are plumbed in series if you delete the egr cooler the oil cooler will still function normally... part of the egr cooler delete kit is a bypass pipe to hook up the coolant so it still flows normally
 
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Looks like you got it covered except the 6 pack on ice.
 
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If your Insight is showing 15 degrees or less of eot/ect difference you are within the Ford specification. Now, I am not one to ever discourage oil cooler maintenance(read that replacement) when in doubt. I pulled my 12000# fiver the other day when the outside temperature was in the low 80's. My eot/ect spread did get to 13 degrees. This is with a new engine with a new oil cooler. I am going to keep an eye on it. Because you are tearing into it anyway, I would still do the oil cooler. Only an extra 2 hours on an already PITA job

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I'm only tearing into it because I think it's a problem. I have to go down to Tampa Airport now it's about 120 miles round trip driving 65-70 mph. I will keep a eye on the temps and let you know how they look when I return..Thanks Guys
 
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Looks like you got it covered except the 6 pack on ice.
Six pack?? I'd need alot more than that for kinda work...
 
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You'll want new O-rings and gasket for the turbo oil line reinstall and there is an updated drain pipe on the bottom of the turbo if you don't already have it. You might want to fix the crankcase ventilation while you're in there. Since you have to pull the turbo it is a good time to put in a new larger exhaust. You did say you have a money tree growing in your yard?
 
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Yeah, cause if you do, we can help you spend it
 
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I hate to say this.. but it is entirely within spec...

You are fixing something that isn't broke.
 
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Ok just got back from Tampa 130 miles Speed 65-70mph Ambient temp 83 degrees...Going temps were ECT 190-192 EOT 207.7-209-9 On the return trip Temps were ECT 091-192 EOT 109.5-210.2 What to you think???
 
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I am thinking you need a new oil cooler, you exceed 15 degrees in both directions
 
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That's what I am thinking. So I might as well do the EGR Delete while I'm in there..Believe me I am not looking to spend money I don't have. I'm a believer if it's not broke don't fix it. I new this day would come but I didn't need it right not..Now I'll just locate all the parts I will need see who has the best prices and do some research on how to do it..lol Well I already reconditioned the turbo (Thanks to Mark) I'm sure when I have all the parts I will be calling for some support..Thanks Guys....Rocky
 
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Originally Posted by rocky1074
That's what I am thinking. So I might as well do the EGR Delete while I'm in there..Believe me I am not looking to spend money I don't have. I'm a believer if it's not broke don't fix it. I new this day would come but I didn't need it right not..Now I'll just locate all the parts I will need see who has the best prices and do some research on how to do it..lol Well I already reconditioned the turbo (Thanks to Mark) I'm sure when I have all the parts I will be calling for some support..Thanks Guys....Rocky
While your in there don't forget a coolant filter. I would do a flush on the system now so you don't have to do it after you reassemble everything. JMHO.
 
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While your in there don't forget a coolant filter. I would do a flush on the system now so you don't have to do it after you reassemble everything. JMHO.
I already have a coolant filter installed. I just changed the filter about 2 weeks ago. I did a coolant flush about 4,000 miles ago. You think it needs be flushed again..
 
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I already have a coolant filter installed. I just changed the filter about 2 weeks ago. I did a coolant flush about 4,000 miles ago. You think it needs be flushed again..
I think you are good then. If you have a milk shake flushing now will do no good.
 


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