e4od to zf5spd swap
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Got the silly Sigs and cute little avatars turned off, here. ;)
Please fill this part out for me and the other Luddites that aren't into Sigs and Avatars---------------------------------------------^
Dixie Arkansas is where my grand parents farm -was :/-. :)
There's two Dixie's tho. LOL :) The Dixie between Paragould and Lake City.
Alvin in AZ
ps- Darth and Off, my E4OD was working fine at 125k miles, just can't stand automatics! LOL :)
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the ansewer to your tcase problem is yes the e4od tcase will bolt on to the zf the e4 tcase is bigger and better the only differnce is the zf has a slip yoke goining into the tcase where the e4 has a bolt on flange so if u could find a driveshaft that would work i would say u would be golden
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I have to admit, when getting from point A to point B is all I cared about
at the time, the E4OD is about as good of a tool as anything I've ever
used. :) But it ain't no fun! :/
I don't enjoy it, I don't like waiting on it, even tho doing it myself would
take longer, I'd rather have the manual.
Darth Vader, you want it delivered? LOL :)
My plan for Craig's List is...
"$600 delivered, might even help install it, depending on your attitude ;-)".
Dumber than you thought in AZ
at the time, the E4OD is about as good of a tool as anything I've ever
used. :) But it ain't no fun! :/
I don't enjoy it, I don't like waiting on it, even tho doing it myself would
take longer, I'd rather have the manual.
Darth Vader, you want it delivered? LOL :)
My plan for Craig's List is...
"$600 delivered, might even help install it, depending on your attitude ;-)".
Dumber than you thought in AZ
#27
Rene'... ;)
The two crossmember's mount locations are the same side-to-side.
And the bolt spacing for the rubber mount itself, is the same too.
If I remember right, the two mounts -looked- like the same part.
The "exit height" for the driveshaft, relative to the upper-surface of
the mount, for both transmissions, is about the same (3").
Up-an'-down the two crossmembers are different, the E4OD's "mount
surface" is about 1/8" above the bottom of the frame on my '91 F150
Super Cab. The ZF crossmember out of the '90 F250 is about 1+1/8"
higher than that. (both those pickups are 2wd)
Question is...
How high is your crossmember above the bottom of the frame?
(I sighted across the bottom of the frame rails)
Measuring from the engine to the center of the U-joints the ZF is 28"
and the E4OD is 40"! Only a 4" difference on the rear mount's distance
from the engine tho, ~26" and 30". The 2wd E4OD has a long tail! ;)
So another question is... (trig)
Both seen from the side, with a factory setup, would the two drive
shafts be parallel with each other? :) Also would somebody like to
"trig it out" and tell us that and how thick of a spacer it'd take to
account for the lower crossmember, after we get his measurement? :)
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Now I'm wondering about my driveshaft angles after measuring that
stuff for you! LOL :) Not that it won't work good and work good for a
long time, but wondering if the angle is "optimum". ;) Since the TC
case is now missing, the whole works is a mess, that way anyhow. ;)
The spacer won't be a "suspension part" so IMO the material you use
isn't critical. ;) There's rubber in between to absorb shock and angle
changes, a nice piece of maple would last quite a while prob'ly? ;)
Anyway, it's up to you to go this route or not, but at least you know
what the deal is. The more information I've got, the easier it is for me
to decide stuff. ;)
Alvin in AZ
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/spacer1.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/spacer2.jpg
The two crossmember's mount locations are the same side-to-side.
And the bolt spacing for the rubber mount itself, is the same too.
If I remember right, the two mounts -looked- like the same part.
The "exit height" for the driveshaft, relative to the upper-surface of
the mount, for both transmissions, is about the same (3").
Up-an'-down the two crossmembers are different, the E4OD's "mount
surface" is about 1/8" above the bottom of the frame on my '91 F150
Super Cab. The ZF crossmember out of the '90 F250 is about 1+1/8"
higher than that. (both those pickups are 2wd)
Question is...
How high is your crossmember above the bottom of the frame?
(I sighted across the bottom of the frame rails)
Measuring from the engine to the center of the U-joints the ZF is 28"
and the E4OD is 40"! Only a 4" difference on the rear mount's distance
from the engine tho, ~26" and 30". The 2wd E4OD has a long tail! ;)
So another question is... (trig)
Both seen from the side, with a factory setup, would the two drive
shafts be parallel with each other? :) Also would somebody like to
"trig it out" and tell us that and how thick of a spacer it'd take to
account for the lower crossmember, after we get his measurement? :)
--------------------------
Now I'm wondering about my driveshaft angles after measuring that
stuff for you! LOL :) Not that it won't work good and work good for a
long time, but wondering if the angle is "optimum". ;) Since the TC
case is now missing, the whole works is a mess, that way anyhow. ;)
The spacer won't be a "suspension part" so IMO the material you use
isn't critical. ;) There's rubber in between to absorb shock and angle
changes, a nice piece of maple would last quite a while prob'ly? ;)
Anyway, it's up to you to go this route or not, but at least you know
what the deal is. The more information I've got, the easier it is for me
to decide stuff. ;)
Alvin in AZ
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/spacer1.jpg
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/spacer2.jpg
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