The F-150 and Ranger have to meet strict emmisions requirements that the "heavy duty" pickups don't. Therefore, the diesel for the F-150 and Ranger has been canned for at least a few more years while they work out a way to meet those tough requirements on a light-duty pickup.
At least , this is the last thing I HEARD about it.
Hey Navistar- do you have an inside scoop? The last I heard Ford said no on the v6 because of noise and emissions. I was kind of also leaning toward $$$$ too. Hit Nav right in the gut though, took a big hit in the 4th qtr. I hope to see more ultra low sulfur diesel (maybe coast-coast??) by around '08, then maybe....And here I had my heart set on a new F150 with the v6, in about '05 is when it fits my budget....225hp and 350#' sounds good to me..
Navistar Saves Vital Diesel Engine Supply Pact with Ford, To Switch to Common Rail.
CHICAGO, Mar 17, 2003
Navistar International Corp., second largest producer and lowest cost supplier of diesel engines in North America, saved a financially vital V6 and V8 diesel engine supply pact with major customer Ford Motor Co., according to a late news bulletin issued today by Stark's Component Ledger, a respected business publication. Stark's reported that Navistar agreed to abandon a less complex powerplant design that currently uses unit injectors and adopt a more complex common rail design for the diesel engines. The business journal said the stunning development was seen as representing death for the much-ballyhooed, futuristic 'camless engine,' whose primary design elements are spin-offs of diesel engines with unit injectors. Common rail fuel injection systems are widely utilized by other major industry makers of diesel engines in plans to meet the next stringent level of federal engine emissions standards to be implemented by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on January 1, 2007. Stark's reported that sources familiar with the agreement made during Navistar's fiscal 2003 second quarter that started last month indicated Ford would absorb the entire $90.0 million loss of business late last year linked with its inability to build and sell trucks with diesel engines featuring the new unit injection design. Navistar agreed to change the design of all V6 and V8-shaped diesel engines to common rail from unit injectors for engines supplied directly to Ford, it added. As a result of the compromise in bargaining between the firms, Stark's disclosed that Ford agreed to end a financial dispute over Navistar's $300.0 million investment, which involved the construction of a new engine manufacturing facility at Huntsville, Ala. Ford gave Navistar a green light to sell the V6 and V8 diesel engines to vehicle assemblers, in addition to Ford, the business publication stated. Navistar reportedly sought to recover nearly 70 per cent of the $300.0 million investment at Huntsville from Ford, after Ford threatened to terminate the program late last year. Navistar already has generated active interest from Toyota Motor Corp. and Nissan Motor Co. Ltd., which might source V6 and V8 diesel engines from Navistar for use in future U.S. production of heavy-duty pick-up trucks, Stark's added. SOURCE Stark's Component Ledger
I love the size of my Durango for driving around town but, it simply can't tow my trailer. Love the towing ability of my 7.3L diesel Excursion but, man!!! What a beast. I would sell them both for a F150 or Expedition with a V6 diesel.
I know that's what I'm wait'n for is a good reliable inline 6 cyl.Diesel, I always liked a high torgue Cummings 6 with a turbo, even a Mack-o-dine 350horse six, they would pull 80,000lb loads up the tallest hills, but all I want is one in a F150 to pull 20,000, so why with all the brain power out there,that there isn't one for my Ford Truck?
I really didn't think I needed to pull that much weight, I was just think'n that it would be nice to pull a good size trailer without grunting and growning up a hill,
My 7700 has a gross capacity of 12,800 with a trailer(5th wheel) and it pulls it fine, until I hit the mountains, then that lower cube engine falls a little short of power, mabe all I need is a 10cyl, but much rather have a Diesel, something I can get some fuel milage with like 21 M/T and maybe 14 with a big trailer and use a 150 style truck, with the lower profile.
The Super-Duty sits to high for my type of city driving and does sit to high to make most 5ver trailers ride level. In my climate a 2wheel drive is useless in the winter, and a 4X4 is the only way.
I guess another way would to get a lower sided box custommade for a Super-Duty, but I hate climbing up-up to get into the cab.