I'm gonna make this extremely simple.....

As long as you are not driving commercially, A CDL is NOT required as long as the TRUCK has a GVWR less than 26,000 pounds.

 

I see that now, it is interesting seeing that a CLass D CDL doesn't jive with the Federal CDL program.

The 25k trailer would still require a class A (Non Comm) in WY.

 

What if it is hauling hazmat?

 

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Maybe I should email them and tell them they are wrong.

 

Exactly, it's not a federal CDL. It's a state thing. Florida has a similar Class D. A regular license is a class E. I was just making point that different states have different rules.

 

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a good point, but late to the party, perhaps.

 

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Now now, calm down, don't get your panties in a bunch. I said you had a good point, I'm just not sure it adds much to the conversation when he's already said he isn't gonna be towing doubles.

I've found this site to be pretty darned helpful and people seem to be pretty nice. But I guess I have a slightly thicker skin than some. *shrugs*

 

There is some contraditcion in DMV and DOT. DOT says any combination of vehicles exceeding 26001lbs requires a CDL. Class B if single vehicle with GVWR of 26001 or more. Class A if vehicle and trailer have GVWR of 26001 or more. Doesn't matter if the trailer is empty.

DMV says CDL is running "combined plates" on tow vehicle and "token" plates on trailer and the GVWR is over 26001.

Now the conflict comes if you license a pickup lets say that has a GVWR of 26000 or less with any trailer that takes the combined weight above 26001, but has been registered for it's appropriate weight.

Both vehicles have paid to carry their designated weight and they do not run "combined and Token" tags. Counting on getting away with this is at your won risk, but makes a convincing agrument.

DOT won't care and you still pay the fine(s). You can appeal to the courts, but DOT is like the IRS, no appeal.

This is for Texas, I don't know about other states.

Doug

 

Interesting. My brother actually HAS his cdl and I know his truck and trailer is registered as a combination. But I also know that the gvwr of his combination isn't over 26,000 lbs.

 

I also have my CDL, Class A. I own a construction company and had to have it for my dump truck/trainer combination. For the Dump Truck 33000gvwr, I only needed Class B. As soon as i added the trailer it went to Class A. The trailer then had to have a DOT inspection instead of just a regular inspection. I also pull that trailer with a couple of 1 ton pickups which do not have DOT. They do not exceed the 26001 limit. Thats why the dump truck has its own tags(not Combined) and the trailer has it's won(not token).

I have another trailer that I pull behind the 1 ton's. It is a 20000lb gvwr. I do not run it as dot since the truck has it's own weight limit ant the trailer has it's own. I am allowed to do this by the state of Texas DMV. The DOT disagrees, but their argument will not stand up in court. My point is that DOT will still fine me and there is noting I can do about it. There is no judge, they just implement a fine and I have to pay it. Ask me how I know.

Doug

 

I am moving this to the proper forum since it is has nothing to do with 73-79 truck tech.
We all need to keep this on topic and refrain from personal attacks!!

 

Towing rules for wyo..might help.

http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm