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The BMW 7 series 6.0L DOHC 48V V12 408HP
The BMW 5 series 4.9L DOHC 32V V8 400HP
The Ford Cobra 4.6L DOHC Supercharged V8 390HP
I'll be damned if one of them little Hondas didn't make it
The Honda S2000 2.0L DOHC 16V I4 240HP
The Jaguar XJ 4.0L DOHC Supercharged 32V V8 370HP
The Ferrari 6.0L DOHC 48V V12 660HP
The Mazda 1.3L 2 Rotor Wankel 250HP
The Saleen 7.0L pushrod 16V V8 550HP
The Ford 5.8L 351CID-M pushrod V8 280HP
The Ford 6.0L Diesel
by the way, what is yer bases fer a good engine? how much horse power and how expensive of a car the engine comes out in?
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-1978 F-250 Camper Special, X Cab, 400, C6, 4x4 w/D60 and less then 45,000 miles.
Last edited by redranger1; 01-26-2003 at 03:43 PM.
All of those engines except the 6.0L Ford diesel are proven performers and somebody other than ford makes engines, I listed my favorite engine made by ford, the 351M, and my dads new diesel the 6.0L which pulls way better than any other diesel we have including the cumminsI6 and the Ford 6.9 and 7.3, I have never owned a Chevy but I am sure that they have some good uses ie. boat anchors, ballast. The Wankel rotary engine has been around for years it is extremely efficient and produces a lot of horsepower and torque, I don't know why carmakers have shied away from this impeccable design. I think that a proven track record, high but manageable horsepower, torque that can be efficiently used and a certain amount of efficiency in gas mileage. The engines aren't so expensive its the cars that they come in. Just so you know the caps lock and shift keys allow you to make a capital letter and punctuation although nothing can fix your grammar.
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I'd have to agree, all of chubby's diesels maybe except the 6.2 are heaps. The 305 is about at the same level. I do defend the 6.2 due to the fact that I've driven my granddaddy's and it has done everything he wants it to (even though it only has 135hp) and has been put through hell. The tranny behind it though, cant say much for it, has #3 tranny in it now, at only 125,000 miles. I have to say though, that the 6.9 is definately a better and more powerful engine. I do believe that the IDI 7.3 (non-turbo) was a more powerful engine than the turbo 6.5. As for gas engines, the 300, 460, 351C, 302 are pretty good, with the 300 being the best probably. I aint much on foreign motors. The Dodge 318 is ok from what I hear. But I ain't really been around long enough to know much, I mean out of 17 years, I maybe have been "familiar" (in a relative sense) with these engines for 5 years or less. But I'm learning as I go.
Originally posted by Flash For overall running and reliability, I would say the Toyota 22R was the best. The worst has to be the Yugo. For Ford, the worst would be the 278 V-8 and best in my opinion was the 429.
What engine is the 278 V-8???
Never heard of it!
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The 278 is of the same family as the 302. It was Fords attempt at a disposable engine like the Chevy 305. When it wore out, you replaced the entire motor. Alot like the rear axles on the 81 Cougar/Bird where the races are part of the axle housing so when the bearings went bad you replaced the entire axle. My ex had one of them in a Cougar, got great gas mileage and was smooth running but she burnt it up sitting in traffic with a radaitor full of coolant. A real piece of technology.
I have put my 300I6 through hell. Ok get this i drove this thing for about 40 miles with no oil in it. When i got to the place i was going i started whipping donuts with my truck. Remember has no oil. Well when i left my house it had a lil knock nothing to bad so i didnt really think anything of it but after i drove it that forty miles started to get worse then whe i whipped the donuts is when it really got bad. So i got out checked the oil she was empty i was like welll that kinda sucks but then i got thinking i hope she blows give me a good reason to get a 351. Well i drove like 5 miles to the local walmart and put a few quarts of oil in it. Started her up no more knock. Now i have put about 5000 miles on since. I think thats pretty tough i would love to see a chevy do that.
Lets see here, the 300I6, 289/302, 351W, the 335 series(aka clevelands), 429/460, the one I-4 stang engine they use in quite a few racing series, the 427 sohc, 426hemi, cheby 4.3 v-6 are all great engines. The 250 v-8 ford put in early 80's stangs, chebby 305, converted 350 diseal, 454bb are not what i consider great engines.
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As far as durability goes, I'd have to go for the 300 I6 - though most of the straight-6 engines are pretty much indestructible (Ford, Chevy, Dodge slant, and even the old Rambler/AMC).
I always liked the IH gassers in the Scouts, but I can't really vote for them as the absolute best. I also like some of the more 'oddball' engines - like Rambler and Studebaker V8s, which (like the IH) could take an amazing amount of punishment.
so you guys like to trash the Chevy 305, but you're forgetting, there actually was one creature more hideous and pathetic:
The Pontiac 305
oh my, what a piece!
on the other hand, it's hard to not admit that the most popular engine of all time, the Chevy 350, is so versatile and well-designed that it deserves an honorable mention. I'd say the King of the Windsor V8's is the 351, it's just so much nicer to work on, and such a strong little mill. TK
John F. Daly III
'77 F-100 LWB, 100% Aftermarket 302-R.I.P. (Stolen)
'95 F-150 SWB, 300 I-6 Now with 300,000+ miles!
Of light truck engines I have owned, the VW bus 1.7 was the worst. All of the American small-block V-8's have been excellent: Chevy 283, Dodge 318 and 360 and the Ford 302. Of V-6's, Chevy 4.3 and Ford 2.9 were both great, Toyota 3400 had lots of problems.
I agree that the GM 350 diesel is probably the all-time worst, but I never owned one.
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