EFI Exhaust to "true duals"
#1
EFI Exhaust to "true duals"
I have seen quite a few posts that mention advantages of using stock EFI split exhaust manifolds to true duals. I been searching and have seen some complaints about the quality of the Walker Y pipe.
My engine has just been rebuilt with Comp cam, H.P. roller rockers and I have a Offy "C" to bolt on, so I'd like to get the best setup with the EFI's.
Is there a "X" type crossover a few feet back?
Anyone have pictures of this setup?
I would like to see how this is done, looks like it could get tricky the way the manifolds dump out.
Thanks, Doug
My engine has just been rebuilt with Comp cam, H.P. roller rockers and I have a Offy "C" to bolt on, so I'd like to get the best setup with the EFI's.
Is there a "X" type crossover a few feet back?
Anyone have pictures of this setup?
I would like to see how this is done, looks like it could get tricky the way the manifolds dump out.
Thanks, Doug
#2
The quality concern with the Walker Y Pipe is a small one and easily remedied. The opening where the rear tube attaches isn't always open all the way and can restrict flow. A little grinding fixes it.
The general consensus is that duals are pretty much just for looks. A single works very well. If you go with duals, keep it around 2" or so. A single about 2 1/4 or 2 1/2".
The general consensus is that duals are pretty much just for looks. A single works very well. If you go with duals, keep it around 2" or so. A single about 2 1/4 or 2 1/2".
#3
I'm not real impressed with the design of the walker Y pipe. While it flows better than a single, I can't help but think it would flow far better with a bit longer tubes that join at a shallower angle, like a header does at the collector.
Doesn't the factory pipe run dual into the converter, and single 2.25 or 2.5 out? If memory serves me right, that's how my 94 was, with an O2 sensor between the pipes just ahead of the converter.....
Doesn't the factory pipe run dual into the converter, and single 2.25 or 2.5 out? If memory serves me right, that's how my 94 was, with an O2 sensor between the pipes just ahead of the converter.....
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#6
I did duals and it was pretty decent, using the stock downpipe into a dual 2" system. The problem people have with duals is primarily not having a crossover, and running too big of a pipe.
The pipe between the cats on the factory system is 3", and a 3" single exhaust is a bit much for these engines, I lost a lot of lower end power with that.
The pipe between the cats on the factory system is 3", and a 3" single exhaust is a bit much for these engines, I lost a lot of lower end power with that.
#7
I did duals and it was pretty decent, using the stock downpipe into a dual 2" system. The problem people have with duals is primarily not having a crossover, and running too big of a pipe.
The pipe between the cats on the factory system is 3", and a 3" single exhaust is a bit much for these engines, I lost a lot of lower end power with that.
The pipe between the cats on the factory system is 3", and a 3" single exhaust is a bit much for these engines, I lost a lot of lower end power with that.
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#8
The efi split manifolds flow just as good as headers,the ONLY time you would need to switch to headers is if the motor was fully built highperformance,other wise no difference.
#9
The quality concern with the Walker Y Pipe is a small one and easily remedied. The opening where the rear tube attaches isn't always open all the way and can restrict flow. A little grinding fixes it.
The general consensus is that duals are pretty much just for looks. A single works very well. If you go with duals, keep it around 2" or so. A single about 2 1/4 or 2 1/2".
The general consensus is that duals are pretty much just for looks. A single works very well. If you go with duals, keep it around 2" or so. A single about 2 1/4 or 2 1/2".
#11
I would have left the cat under mine, but it had been under it for more than 12 years without the air pump hooked up. It wasn't failing yet, but it was living on borrowed time.
Duals take up a lot of room under there, since they have to share an area that was formerly used for a single pipe and muffler. A larger single will flow just as well as smaller duals, but there's less stuff to eventually rust out.
#12
To quantify the advantage of headers, dink around with desktop dyno. It gives a very good representation of various mods and is amazingly accurate as compared to the same testing on a real dyno.
#13
Yes, full length long tube headers do offer a significant improvement in power/torque.
I'd be all over putting these on my truck, if I could find any that were built to the same specs as the headers I run on my rotaries. They're made with 7/16" flanges, and 1/8" (.125") wall tubing, then ceramic coated. No leaks, ever. Sadly, no one makes headers that are this well built for most applications, and the few that are cost a truckload of money.
Any lower quality materials, and leaks are very common.
I'd be all over putting these on my truck, if I could find any that were built to the same specs as the headers I run on my rotaries. They're made with 7/16" flanges, and 1/8" (.125") wall tubing, then ceramic coated. No leaks, ever. Sadly, no one makes headers that are this well built for most applications, and the few that are cost a truckload of money.
Any lower quality materials, and leaks are very common.
#14
Oh yea, too big and you lose low end, my E250 is just a very heavy van, thought maybe a few minor things wouldn't hurt. Plus, I've been kinda bored lately anyway.
#15
This all doesn't apply with forced induction, where you just want the exhaust away from the engine or turbo.