Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)Diesel Topics Only
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Been noticing alot of people asking the value of these old trucks, so I think it be great if we can all pitch in this thread and let everybody know the following info to help out noobies buying the right truck for the right price:
Mileage when purchased and date:
Here are mine:
000,134km (bought brand new in 1990)
Asking price 26,900$, paid 23,500$
E350 Class C Motorhome
2 wheel drive, dually
123,000km (76,000 miles) October 25 2000
Asking price 18,000$, paid 15,000$
1990 Ford F250 4x4, ZF5, L/S 4.10, N/A 7.3L Diesel, 568,808km/377,497 miles, still on the original clutch!
1989 Ford F150 300-6, C6, 2.73, 135,000km/84,000 miles.
1987 Ford E350 26ft. Motorhome, N/A 6.9L Diesel, C6, 3.54, 277,000km/173,000 miles.
1985 Ford E350 Ext Van, 6.9L Diesel, C6, 4.11, 670,000km/419k miles
1993 F250 2x4
XLT Ext. Cab
5 Speed manual
180,000 miles when purchased (I'm the second owner)
Paid $4200 in April 2008
The truck has no rust at all, spent its whole life in Dallas TX. The PO kept all service records and recites which he gave me when I bought the truck. The interior was spotless. Exterior paint shows some wear and a couple of small dents. Over all, very good condition.
Aircraft Mechanic, Gulfstream Aerospace Service Center, Westfield, MA. 1993 F250 Ext. cab IDI 2x4 with a 5 spd manual.
Model: F250 ext cab
Driveline: ZF-5, 2x4
Mileage when purchased and date: 110k , oct 2009
price paid: $2200 out the auction house door
No records, no history, no problems so far put 2500 miles on it, well maintained, unmolested, no body rust save for some surface spots, plenty of underbody surface rust, cracked windshield, interior mint, good tires. New parts i've discovered on the truck: starter (dated 6/09), both batteries (dated 5/09), water pump (brand new), lift pump (brand new). Replaced: GPR ($33), GPs will go in soon ($85). Slowly going through it.
1989 IDI ZF-5
2x 1989 IDI ZF-5 4x4
1997 PSD AT 4x4
This is hard to answer for me, as I have done a lot of trading and swapping. lol
Model F250 with a dually kit
mileage unknown a bunch
Tires 800 included because I bought before I drove it home.
so 4800 except I bought it 1350 miles from home so really travel expensices would apply.
Now I added
lightforce lights 360
and relays 100
nerf bars These came of a 2x that I am parting out
What I have is a nice 86 dually 4X4, T19, gearvendor,ats turbo, and alcoa wheels that looks and everything including cold air and cruise works like it is suppose to.
I have driven this for several years all over the west including canada and alaska, averages at 70 mph 16 mpg and other than oilchanges and servicing I have replaced the return lines and water pump ,thermostat and heater hoses. SO total parts that have failed has been around 200 bucks over a three year period.
The way I figgure It has cost me around 5460 for three years running which is less than 7 months payments my son pays for his 08 and I would rather drive mine. lol
absolutely no dodges.
to many fords to list.
one town car.sold
If it breaks because of my advice
you can keep both halves
Trim: XLT/standard cab
Driveline: 7.3L Non Aspirated/4 speed auto/4x4/1356 BW transfer case-manual shift/3.55's.
Mileage when purchased and date: 47,786 last fall.(carfaxed 100% clean and legit.driving it confirms as well.)
original problems when purchased: hole in front fuel tank/FSV burnt out/rear fuel tanks pick up tube broken/bad GP's/bad battery cables/bad front U-joints/bad belt tensioner/bad belt/one bad front brake caliper/one bad front rubber brake line/rusted out brake lines/bad e-brake cables/bad master cylinder(so the normal things you expect with a 17 yr old truck that sat mostly.sitting takes its toll as well.)
not maintained well,but not abused either.basically just left to rot away.interior is great/frame and underbody solid/the original stock bed and front fenders= rusted out.just took some TLC to bring her up to par nicely.with new fenders & paint job,the truck will then look like the condition its truly now in.the big dump bed purchased separately of course,which is also getting sprayed.
recently on the road,with about 1,000 miles so far since (finding the dump bed was my holdup) and loving it!
♠ Log Truck: '93 F-Super Duty (F450) XLT 1st Gen Navistar 444ci IDI Diesel w/ Intercooled 2nd Gen Banks Sidewinder Turbo, E40D, 5:13, Dually, 16' Dump & Auto Crane ♠
♠ Chip Truck: '93 F250HD XLT 4x4 1st Gen Navistar 444ci IDI Diesel w/ Intercooled 2nd Gen Banks Sidewinder Turbo, E40D, 3.55, Dually, 9' Dump, & Plow ♠
Model: F-250 4x4 Standard Cab
Trim: Old & Beat
Driveline: 6.9L Non-turbo, 4-speed manual, No clue on gears, Trans shifts excellently
Mileage when purchased and date: To quote the PO "There's a number but it doesn't mean anything." Purchase February 2010
price paid: $500
F-250 4X4 reg cab, long bed
D60 front D70 rear. 6.9/T19
335000km speedo doesn't work, bought fall 09
Rusty body everywhere except 87+ front clip
$800, just because it ran and had the 1 ton axles
F-250 4X4 reg cab, long bed
Stock axles, 6.9/T19
Roll over, has a heavy duty flat deck, may need lift pump or IP
F-250 4X4 ext cab, long bed
Stock axles 7.3/5spd
Average rust, 7.3 dropped a valve, came with a good 6.9
There are the diesel trucks I have currently, always keepin an eye out for more parts trucks, might eventually come across one worth restoring.
1960 Comet mostly stock, summer DD
1979 Ranchero stock fix up for now
1980-82 thunderbirds everywhere
1994 F350 IDI turbo getting a 1959 Mercury M700 body transplant
1994.5 F250 PSD, 5spd 4" rancho on 35's
i'd list mine but it was given to my father as a christmas present from the company he was working for, and that was way back in 92, im guessing the truck was stuill worth a pretty penny back then too.
91 f-250 4x4 280,000+ on the clock. k&n intake, rebuilt strengthened e4od,with 94 style tcu, all sensors new, warn hubs
Custom reg cab
Came with: 6.9L, T19, new batteries, tires 80%, new vacuum pump, alt, GP's and relay, new return lines.
rusted up pretty good.
168 K on the broken speedo
Also came with a Myers 8' plow attached, works great!!
XL Reg Cab
7.3L, ATS Turbo, ZF-5, D50/10.25 Sterling, 4.10 Detroit Lockers.
98k bought from second owner who bought it from his boss. It has all the original paperwork in the glove box.
Had to put fuel return line kit on, GP"s, alt, reg, and bought a new set of tires and rims from a GI being shipped out for $200, new front pinion seal.
Minor body dents, good glass. It does have a weak reverse syncro I think, it doesn't want to go in reverse gear very easy when it's cold.
2001 F-350 SD 4x4, 7.3 PS, CC, SRW, Long Bed
91 F-250, 4x4, 7.3 IDI, ATS Turbo, ZF-5, 4.10 Lockers
Model: F350 Cab and Chassis, Long Wheelbase (11' flatbed)
Driveline: 6.9 N/A, 4 speed, 2wd
Mileage when purchased and date: 180k ish... Feb. 2006
price paid: $500
First IDI, didn't know anything about IDI's at the time. It was rough, sat for 4 years...(vehicles that sit around here are actually in WORSE shape than daily driven HIGH mileage vehicles) Wasn't in good enough shape to justify repairs. Stripped the good parts and scrapped the rest.
Model: F350 Cab and Chassis, Long Wheelbase again
Driveline: 6.9 N/A, 4 speed, 2wd
Mileage when purchased and date: 93k August '09
price paid: $900
Truck's in excellent shape-chassis is solid, body is solid, bought from a farmer who said it wouldn't hold prime overnight...
Model: F350 Cab and Chassis, Short Wheelbase
Trim: XLT (sweet! It has a tach!)
Driveline: 6.9 N/A, 4 speed, 2wd
Mileage when purchased and date: 120k, 220k, 320k? Don't know, definetly NOT just 20k! Former farm truck...
price paid: $100, bought non-running because this farmer also said it wouldn't hold prime overnight...
Has a homemade steel flatbed with 8' top-mount toolboxes and a rotted wood floor, rusted out floorboards, but otherwise a solid chassis.
Suggestion to potential buyers in the Northeast or other areas where rust is an issue: Check the leaf spring hangers for rust, mine were paper thin on the first truck. In the Mass., Connecticut, and Eastern NY area, common craigslist prices have been hovering around $1500 for a decent truck that might need a few low-dollar parts. I've seen them go up to around $3,500 for a pickup, $3k-$5k for dump trucks (on the high side if it has a snow plow), and I've seen $8,500 for a turn-key rollback flatbed tow truck. Be aware, paying more doesn't alwasy mean you get something better! You MUST check it out thoroughly no matter what the price tag is. My two current IDI's were cheap because they wouldn't hold prime overnight and the sellers suspected fuel system issues. It took me 5 seconds to find the cracked and leaking fuel return lines. For $45 worth of return line kit, I'm up and running in 2 hours!
Maybe we'll make another thread, or thread contributors can also include their thoughts on a "buyers checklist". John, any preferences? I don't want to hijack your thread.
1996 F350. 7.3 PSD, E4OD, 4x4, D60, just starting....
1985 F-350 Work truck. 6.9 Diesel IDI, T-19, 2wd 3.55 Ford 10.25....Planning a fully built 6.9 with PSD turbo, ZF5, Dana 60, 5.13's with ARB's - Scrapped
1991 F-Superduty Work truck. 7.3 Diesel IDI, ZF5, 2wd, 5.13's, 12' x 8' x 4' stake dump. Planning a nasty 6.9 and Dana 60 swap
IDI's make me
Trim:Im guessing XL since its bare bones and I don't have a Tach
Driveline:6.9 NA T19 4.10's
Mileage when purchased and date: around 150K
Once we got it we had about $1100 of work done at the shop, basically all new breaks on front end, and bearings front and rear, New Gp's and push button relay.
I put a new return line kit on and fixed a few electrical problems. Also I had to completely rebuild the dumpbed because the old bed was so rusted out, about $800 for steel and some new hydro parts for the hoist.
I need to replumb the hydro system and take care of a coolant leak, hopefully this summer if I get some time I can repair the rusted out cab corner and area in the floor and paint the truck and bed.
Someday once I get a few of my projects knocked out I want to buy a 4x4 IDI, add some performance parts, and use it for heavy towing/hauling and for when my right foot is feeling heavy.
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