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Old 02-25-2010, 12:28 AM
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Super Duty 6.2 HP/Torque numbers in!

2011 F-Series Super Duty: Ford Tows Chevy To Woodshed, Smacks It Around - 2011 Ford Super Duty - Jalopnik

"Here it produces 385 HP at 5,500 RPM and 405 ft-lb of torque at 4,500 RPM."

Will need to see the HP/Torque curve for the full story though. Looks like it should compare quite favorably with the Dodge 5.7L V8 which is rated at 383HP and 400 lb-ft in HD applications. To be honest I'm a little bit disappointed with the 6.2s numbers knowing that Dodge will be bringing out a new 6.4L V8 next year or so, but hopefully it has plenty of room for future power.
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Thoses numbers are a little disapointing but at least it will outpower the 5.4l by quite a bit. The 6.2ls VVT should help the torque curve out down low. I just don't see how the 6.2l is a replacement for the 6.8l. I think Ford is going to have to up the displacement of the 6.2l to compete with the old 6.8l and future engines from the competition. At least the 6.2l will be content to run on 87 octane to make the advertised numbers.
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Just received some additional info and noted something interesting...

6.2L (Under 10K GVWR) - 385 HP @ 5,500 RPM / 405 TQ @ 4,500 RPM

6.2L (Over 10K GVWR) - 316 HP @ 4,179 RPM / 397 TQ @ 4,179 RPM
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Agreed, Those numbers are disappointing. Leave it to Ford to leave power on the table.. Ford really should have done what it took to get to the magic 400 hp mark on both new engines. Just like they did with the 5.0 Mustang...(good Job Ford) They would sell more trucks ...my opinion. Heck the v6 mustang has 305 hp... and Ford made everyone aware of that and its created a lot of jazz...
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I just have this feeling Ford will come up with a larger displacement version of the 6.2l around 2012 or 2013. After a bunch of guys laid down serious coin for a 6.2l truck.
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If I'm not mistaken, a cam change is all they did before they put it in the raptor and it made 411hp.
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dam those numbers for the over10K trucks is down right terible.. fully loaded one of those trucks would be gutless..

300HP are you kidding ?
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This is the answer all the 5.4 guys where looking for. More power to move these bricks around and hopefully better gas mileage.

Ford I believe is gambling on this to pay off with 2 engine choices in the 250/350 arena. Trying maybe to force more DSL sales. Should be interesting to see how this will play out next year in truck sales. Plus the economy being the way it is right now, probably a smart financial decision.
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Just received some additional info and noted something interesting...

6.2L (Under 10K GVWR) - 385 HP @ 5,500 RPM / 405 TQ @ 4,500 RPM

6.2L (Over 10K GVWR) - 316 HP @ 4,179 RPM / 397 TQ @ 4,179 RPM
Not very happy with those numbers! I wanted to buy a new 2011 SD with the 6.2L to replace my '03 V10. My V10 runs 310hp and 425tq...so I was looking for something closer in the torque area. I never was concerned with that silly HP number.

Now...I might have to look seriously at the PSD...

Maybe...just maybe those will be the first year numbers??? Kind of like when FORD came out with the Modular engines...and the '99 had less HP and TQ...until the PI heads were introduced the following year.

I sure hope so!!!


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Just received some additional info and noted something interesting...

6.2L (Under 10K GVWR) - 385 HP @ 5,500 RPM / 405 TQ @ 4,500 RPM

6.2L (Over 10K GVWR) - 316 HP @ 4,179 RPM / 397 TQ @ 4,179 RPM
I'm interested to see where this data came from as everything I have read, including the order guide shows 385 for all F-250 / F-350 engines, no derate except @ altitude.

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If I'm not mistaken, a cam change is all they did before they put it in the raptor and it made 411hp.
Cam change and the way they are required to report HP, after 8600 LB GVW there is a change to HP measurements. Also, I don't believe these HP/Torque numbers are SAE numbers that GM is using so that means more then likely they are also elevated and will lose more once they are SAE certified.

A final disappointment is that the current (2012) tow ratings are not apples to apples vs GM. GM has their new trucks SAE certified for tow ratings and Ford only says they are on the advisory board (no kidding?) but not that the truck is SAE certified for it's tow ratings.
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Everybody is talking about the HP and toque at the motor, what I'm waiting for is for Mike to get his new one and put it on a dino and see what the figures are at the rear wheels where the HP meets the ground. I'm thinking with the new 6 speed and no 1 to 1 gear just well balanced gear spacing everyone may be surprised. Maybe we could talk him into overlaying the 2V V10, 3V V10 and 6.2 to see how well they compare. Personally I don't care about max HP or Torque I'm more concerned at where it makes 80% of it's power and at what RPM it happens from there using a rpm calculator I can decide if it will be a good motor for what I use it for. I don't care about top end speed or jackrabbit starts I just want a good dependable pulling motor to pull my home around.

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This may come across a little weird, but I'm happy that Ford left a lot on the table with this motor. I say that knowing it can easily put out more power without much effort and can be punched out to 7.5L. Eventually the power will be upped more. So who knows, maybe it WILL be like the first of the 5.4L.
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Those numbers are not as good as they should be especially with the 5.0 putting out close to that much power.
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Those numbers are not as good as they should be especially with the 5.0 putting out close to that much power.
I agree however you have to keep in mind the amount of work that these 6.2s will be doing in the super duty vs the F-150. There is a big difference between 90% of the F-150s being daily drivers and 90% of the 6.2 Superduty's being work horses.

A derate in this instance is probably good.


I agree that the torque is key and if you look at the charts out there the 6.2 isn't bad but it isn't great either. It's a tweener. I'd say it's got about 350 ft lbs or torque at 2,000 RPM for a quick glance at the charts.

The 6 speed is what will make the big difference. Just look at the F-150 for example.
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I think they could make it have 350 TQ or more at 1000 RPM. The 5.4 made 290 TQ at 1000 RPM so the 6.2 should be around 350 TQ I think. I think Ford's numbers will be acurate. SAE just comes in while they dyno it to see if they do everything right. I'm sure they dynoed it the first time to SAE specs.
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