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Either of those blocks are a real deal. One has the dual motor mount pattern and the other does not. If you go for one of them verify that it has been align honed so you don't have more machine work to do. You could use a 428 crank and have a unique 410 cid engine. For that price I think he's just getting some of his money out of the parts and machine work. He might also have the 428 parts needed to build a strong engine.

 

Just what the doctor ordered on e-bay
406 Ford Block C2AE-6015-J NO RESERVE : eBay Motors (item 170446108058 end time Feb-18-10 18:34:27 PST)

 

Good price and possibly a great deal but I wouldn't run it with out having the cylinders sonic tested on 4 sides of each cylinder. Core shifting was a fairly common problem when this was cast. I would take a chance on the cross bolted 390s first.

 

"You could use a 428 crank and have a unique 410 cid engine"
Unique? Jeezus
Clone of a 66-67 Mercury 410 engine, very easily and commonly built with a 360 or 390 block- been discussed on here many times, in fact quite recently

To quote Stitch Jones, "You been freeze-dried, or doin' hard time?"

havi, you should talk to Dennis, good guy and won't do you wrong.
But really, as the car isn't real, I wouldn't worry about getting a very expensive block for it, kinda like building an all-correct medium riser for a Cobra kit car- the car's fake anyway, close enough is good enough. You could just use an early 390 block and one of Barry's 445 kits and it'll be faster anyway. I've got a bunch of 63-64 blocks, but you're kinda far away. I actually have all the correct parts to build a complete 406, plus extras, but as I have an original '62 406-6V Galaxie 500XL, they're staying here. I might turn loose of a set of C2 small-chamber heads, though, have to check but I think I have 3 sets now

And no, this ain't the REAL FE forum- not even close

 

MG, I disagree, it is for this Ford Truck website. This thread aint about trucks at all, since no 406, or 428 was ever sold in one.

This thread would be correct for the forum that you were referring to.




John

 

I don't know how many Cross Bolted 410s you have run across but I have seen none and if that makes me freeze dried, I guess I am. Cross bolted blocks are scarce and by definition unique, especially in any other configuration than a 427. As a 390 or 410 I would consider it unique.

 

So I was at the local yard a couple days ago, and there's this '62 galaxie that had another car on top of it for years. Well, the top car was finally removed, and so I was able to crack the hood open a little bit and spot the F O R D valve covers. I was told this is a 352 with those type valve covers. They have no pcv or filler holes in them. Did the 406 have the same style non pvc valve covers? (only bare) In all honesty, I may not go the 406 route, as it appears more expensive than I am willing to go right now. But to pull those 352 valve covers would be good for the garage art, I think.

 

The valve covers will tell you nothing. See if the engine tag is still there. What is the VIN number? Numbers on the block?

 

Bill, aka numberdummy told me those vc's only came on the 352, and Thunderbird was scripted on the 390 vc's, and the 406 was bare. So with that, I assume it's a 352.

 

If I remember correctly the early 406 engines came with a small round decal, about 1 1/2" diameter, on the top forward part of the valve covers that indicated high performance. The covers were a light gold color with no vents as the oil fill was at the front of the intake to allow air into the engine and the road draft tube was the vent at the rear of the intake. The 406s that had the engine dress up pkg. came with chrome covers with a 427 type winged decal on each but said 406 instead in late '62 and '63.

 

Some 406's came with the stamped steel "THUNDERBIRD" valve covers painted gold with the round 406 sticker. Also as Mel said the chrome dressup pkg as an option. I'd look more into that 62 Gal and see exactly what it has. Never know and you might find yourself a nice core engine to start with.

 

The valve cover descriptions for that time frame are correct, my old '62 Sunliner that I had 30 yrs ago had a 352-2V with FORD covers, and every period 352 I've seen had the same, and the 390-4V and up the Bird covers, IIRC they called them "Thunderbird Special" engines. Plain 390's just painted gold, 406's got the decal, and it's much debated thing, but the concensus and old pics go with the decal being to the "left" on each cover, making the passenger side to the rear- it's been done both ways. Seems like the '61-'62 390 Hipo also had the decals? Somewhere I have a '61 Hot Rod Yearbook that's about 3/4" thick, and it has in-depth breakdowns of the '61 hot factory engines, the 390, 409 Chebbie, etc. like they used to do. On the car, a '62 352-2V wouldn't have external badging, but 390/406 cars will have the bird emblems on the lower fender behind the wheel, or the holes where they used to be
I've got a couple sets of 427 "baldies", but unfortunately somebody installed a set of old-style bolt-on breathers on one set

 

Thanks for more info. Yeah, I need to go back there on Monday and look that car over some more. Transmission might be a good grab as well. Yard owner is an old car guy himself, though everything has its price, he may not want to just sell the covers. Next step would be to grab the whole engine and transmission, if possible (with 9 engines laying around here, I don't have a single FE). If the car wasn't a 4 door, I'd get the whole car and deal with the wife instead, lol.

 

I'd be looking at the heads. I'd guess C1s or, if your lucky, C0s