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Old 01-15-2010, 10:12 AM
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joe chevy i live in new jersey and they salt the crap out of the roads here. one thing is that i do wash my engine every so often in the summer months and my undercarage. powerwash it get a old sponge and wash everything real good with soap and rinse.
 
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The side of my engine looks much the same. But it also sees mud a few times a year in the PA Allegheny Mts.

I looked up the SPD y pipe, which I had never heard of. Do they have one of their own, or do they ship you the "old" ram horn style Y-pipe? Again this is something I have to do again and Im not going to do it a 3rd time!

Nevermine, went back to the web page again and found they make a custom deal. Perfect!!!
 
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I used Eastwood high temp silver colored header coating on my Case 580 CK backhoe header at least 15 years ago & they still look new. Never used it on a truck.
 
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Wow, thanks for all the replies!!

Originally Posted by Gastic3514
I have done this job once on my '02. And I will be doing it again this spring. They snapped again after only a year of being replaced. And I replaced the studs with the "improved" Ford parts. I did not replace the manifold, I checked for straightness and couldnt find a warp.. don't know. I am in the same spot as you, either Dorman or headers.

The biggest tool that made the job possible for me was my MIG welder! I could not get the studs out. All of them broke coming off. Once the manifold was out of the way, I had to weld nuts onto what was remaining of the studs to get them out. I think the heat going into the stud helped immensely as well. One stud broke off just below the surface of the head. I ground a bolt to a point and welded it to the stud. It worked.
Good idea! Given the way the other studs look, I'll probably have to use that trick. Also, thanks for the heads up about the improved parts not holding up. I'll definitely look into using something different.

No matter which way I go (manifolds/headers) I'm definitely doing the y-pipe upgrade.


Originally Posted by joe chevy
replaced both manifolds on my wifes exp with doormanvery happy no complaints and the price cant say nothing bad about that and i hope you wont have to extract to many studs
if you do may they be the most accessible ones
Cool! Good to hear another thumbs up for the Dormans.
With my luck, all of the broken studs will be very accessible
Originally Posted by mvanbeelen
I read an article in a magazine about the 5.4 that said they got huge HP gains at the wheels when putting headers and a catback system on.
That's cool.... maybe if this goes well with headers & y-pipe, I'll look at an exhaust system in a year or so.

Originally Posted by MikeMcCasland
Promise us whatever you do, you'll make a writeup just like you did for your ball joints?
Absolutely I'm going to try to document everything I do on this. I already started the writeup, but its kinda sparse at the moment

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Originally Posted by 350z
I did the SPD y pipe , it didn't change the mpg but added power you can feel.
Is the SPD y-pipe the same one that's on ebay? If not, is there anything better about one or the other? I really want to do this mod while I have it all apart.

Originally Posted by Daisy Cutter
My mechanic had to lift the engine as well. DC
Thanks for the reply. Another mention of lifting the engine. Sounds like I should be prepared to do this as well.

Originally Posted by joe chevy
mike i bet he does hes good like that
Thanks!

Originally Posted by SuperDutyScaler
i put gibson headers on my 04, i dont think they were worth the money i didnt really feel anything different in power. the y-pipe i did feel it pulls harder through the gears now. I was told to reuse my factory stubs so i took all of mine out and put them back two years later and none are broke or loose. Just a question why is your motor so dirty, your exhaust looks like you mud hard and thwey look coated kinda like my mud truck.
Interesting the gibson's didn't help too much. Another good vote for the y-pipe though!

I don't mud the truck at all. That's all a result of the salty WV roads. I hope to install the fender liners from a PSD truck as mentioned above to try to keep that crap outta there.

Originally Posted by scram98400jm
I used Eastwood high temp silver colored header coating on my Case 580 CK backhoe header at least 15 years ago & they still look new. Never used it on a truck.
That's cool. Good to hear it holds up well. A guy at work told me he used the coating from Eastwood with good results.

Again, thanks to everyone for all the replies! This is some great info!!

 
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jason the new ford SS stud kit cost just about as much as i payed for the doorman manifold well not the same but very expensive
im sure youll find the best alternative
 
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Is the SPD y-pipe the same one that's on ebay?
I just did a little searching and found that the ebay seller's name is "spd-performance" so it looks like they're the same.
 
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A bump for those who may have missed it the first time around.....


So, if I can swing the $$$, I'll go with the JBA headers and SPD y-pipe.

Otherwise, it'll be the Dorman's and the y-pipe.

Either way, the y-pipe is going on there

Thanks again to those who have replied so far
 
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F250 Manifold bolts

I have a 2003 F250 5.4liter 4WD. Just checked and seen I had 1 bolt broke off passenger side top rear. Was quoted $600 to remove all the bolts and replace manifold with new one. Thought about doing it myself but real nervous.

Had 2 questions: Seen some stainless headers on ebay with a real good price. What do people think about putting Stainless Headers on. Do alot of towing with my bass boat and wondered if it would help a little. Also will they last or I mean break bolts again.

2nd question was also thinking about installing the Y pipe. I see that it stated off road use only. I live in NJ and sometimes DMV sucks with their regulations does anybody think I would have a problem installing this and making it through inspection.

Alot of great info here thanks for all the help.
 
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by topcopsr
Had 2 questions: Seen some stainless headers on ebay with a real good price. What do people think about putting Stainless Headers on. Do alot of towing with my bass boat and wondered if it would help a little. Also will they last or I mean break bolts again.
I'm really leaning toward the headers on mine. If I can swing the $$$ I'm going to do it. I'm not sure about whether they'll break bolts again or not. I think if we replace the studs with high quality stainless studs/bolts then they'll hold up much much better. As with all headers, the studs may need tightened a time or two after installation.

Which headers are you looking at?

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2nd question was also thinking about installing the Y pipe. I see that it stated off road use only. I live in NJ and sometimes DMV sucks with their regulations does anybody think I would have a problem installing this and making it through inspection.

Alot of great info here thanks for all the help.
I'm pretty sure the seller has to say something like "off road use only" as a liability. Just like the old H-pipes for mustangs used to be marketed as "catalytic converter test pipes". They just don't want to catch the blame should you have trouble with emissions testing. I'm no expert, but I suspect the y-pipe has very little effect on whether or not the truck passes emissions testing.

In WV they only do a visual test to see if the cats are present, which is why punched out cats are popular here. That's one thing we have going for us here (so far) --- no sniff testing
 
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Originally Posted by 1975StroppeBaja

Which headers are you looking at?
Well I looked on ebay and found a bunch of stainless headers. Some brand name and others no name. I really don't have alot of money to spend so there is one person who has alot of them but they are like $200 a set with gaskets and bolts. Also looked at the shorty pacesetters for like around $200. I think its going to cost me a lot to have them installed, so I don't know.

Btw used a few of your walkthroughs on your site a big help thanks.
 
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Just be aware some shops will be reluctant to install headers because of possible fitment issues. A lot of guys who bought the ebay headers had to notch the frame and bend the y-pipe to get eveything to fit properly. Those were ebay headers on the 6.8l though. Just remember in most cases you get what you pay for.

2nd question was also thinking about installing the Y pipe. I see that it stated off road use only. I live in NJ and sometimes DMV sucks with their regulations does anybody think I would have a problem installing this and making it through inspection.
SPD did not spend the money to get a CARB or similar certification done so they have to state that they are for offroad purposes only. The new y-pipe isn't doing anything to effect emmissions.
 
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:21 AM
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Btw used a few of your walkthroughs on your site a big help thanks.
Cool! Glad to hear they helped you out
 
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yea i really didnt like the headers at all i dont think they helped but i dont know any dyno around my area that can handle the size of these trucks so i cant really say but im looking into arp bolts kits and stud kits for are trucks. i guess two years and all the salt up here my stainless heades are looking more like cast iron so hopefully i can find decent prices on coating and have them dipped. i do like the y-pipe but i could have bought a merge pipe and got my cousin to bend two pieces of pipe and made it look alot better than what i bought, or i just could have gotten an exhaust shop to make a new y-pipe from the headers ot the cat for a little more. either way you feel the power
 
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Look what followed me home today. I think I'll keep 'em

Next up is the y-pipe.

 


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