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Old 12-23-2009, 10:25 PM
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Does anyone have pictures where the CKP sensor is located. i have take it apart on the pasenger side through the wheel well but i cant find the sensor where the haines manual says its at. Any help

I need some help with my 6.0 2004 f250 Power Stroke. It started acting up upon start. It finally started and ran rough until it warmed up. It shows the check engine light so i took it to get tested and came back with the following codes:
p2617 crankshaft position out
p2614 camshaft position out
p0261 cylinder 1 injector low
p0264 cylinder 2 injector low
p0267 cylinder 3 injector low
p0270 cylinder 4 injector low
p0273 cylinder 5 injector low
p0276 cylinder 6 injector low
p0279 cylinder 7 injector low
p0282 cylinder 8 injector low

then i left it alone for about a week and did not run it i went back to it and now it does not start. it turns over but no start.
I replaced the following:
both of the fuel filters. no luck
The camshaft positioner sensor no luck
I am about to replace the CKP sensor but i can not find it i read on the HANES manual for this truck but it has very limmited info. I have read online but i still cant determine the location and how it looks like. Some say it is behind the air compresor but i am having difficulties removing the compressor. Any help or any pictures would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:01 AM
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Should be on the front right side of the motor. The CKP reads off of the crank gear and the CMP reads off of the cam gear, so both are on the front of the motor.
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Go here for more help: 2003 - 2007 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

This is the 6.0 diesel forum. Look at the first few topics and go into the "Tech Section". Lots and lots of info for you!
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To the best of my knowledge, the 6.0L engines have not had a lot of problems with the crank position and cam position sensors. They have had a lot of problems with injectors and more specifically with the high pressure oil pump systems that drive the injectors. I would thoroughly diagnoze the fuel system before I threw parts at it. Parts are extremely expensive for these engines.
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Do you know if your getting fuel up to the injectors? Seems like your problem will be common to all 8 of them. FICM?
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:28 PM
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Here's a copy of a recent post from Mark (Bismic) from the 6.0 forum. He's a walkin 6.0 encyclopedia.

6.0’s, FICM’s and cold-start issues.

If your 6.0 will not start cold, the issue may be injectors, the glow plugs or glow plug controller, or it can be the FICM (Fuel Injection Control Module). If after a long cranking with no start you get a lot of white smoke (raw unburnt fuel) out the exhaust, the problem is probably in the injectors or glow plug system. If you do not get any smoke, the problem is probably in the FICM. It is usually accompanied w/ multiple injector codes and a p0611 code.

The 6.0 injector has two solenoids on it; one turns the injector on (open) and the other turns it off (close). A few years ago, Ford came out with a new program referred to as inductive heating for the FICM, intended to combat issues with missing and rough-running during cold startup due to sticking spool valves in the injectors. This program works by running “extra” current through the close coil to generate heat and warm up the spool. On paper it was an excellent idea, and I advised a lot of potential injector customers to have their FICM’s reflashed rather than buy a set of injectors.

Based on my testing, it appears that the early models of FICM’s only used the inductive heating when the EOT was less than 48*F or so.
The “first” updated heating strategy turned it on any time the EOT was less than 184*F:

meaning every time you started the truck (if it had been shut off for more than 10 minutes) that the inductive heat was used!

Hope this helps. Hopefully Bismic or one of the other 6.0 techs will jump in. There's always lots of help here.
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to answer your question it's on the driver side it can be taken out with out removing anything else just a little tight it's behind the ps pump, black connector one bolt
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Sounds like it could be the high pressure oil pump seal - a common failure on the 6.0's.
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are you running a factory oil filter, nobody else makes a filter that fits, before you try and crank it go pull your oil filter there should be coated in oil and even oil in the reservoir before it drains down it could be as simple as just a filter and I have seen it take 1000 or 2000 miles to act up
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