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Old 12-17-2009, 05:20 PM
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Question re: installing glass in vent windows 1952 F-1

Im putting vent windows together for my '52 ford- When putting the glass itself in the frame, is there a rubber seal or something thats supposed to go inbetween the glass and the frame? or is it OK to just use windshield adhesive? The old ones I took apart looked like there was some sort of rubber type seal though.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:01 PM
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Nevermind- answered my own question- but the answer was in a section of this forum for different year trucks, not this one-
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:10 PM
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There is a rubberized tape you use to set windows with. It goes in the channel and the window is pushed in and then the excess is trimmed around the edge of the channel. That tape is available in most of the after market catalogs or most glass shops.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:15 PM
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yeah that was one of the answers I saw- and another answer was using this window weld stuff thats in a caulking type tube- thats the stuff I got so it ought to work- thanks
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You don't want to use the window-weld for installing glass into the vent window frame. That is gasket sealer material, used between the glass and gasket, and gasket to pinchweld around the window opening in the body. You want to use glass bedding tape. You'll have a giant mess that will never hold the glass in if you use the caulk stuff. Use the right products for their intended purpose, and you'll have much better success.
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Actually, 3M Window Weld is a line of products, that include everything from adhesives to sealants of all different types, from butyl to urethanes. Which one did you use?
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didnt actually use it yet- but the stuff I have says "3M window weld super fast urethane"
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You are correct Ross. In my haste to stop Dagwood from making a serious mistake, I jumped the gun a bit with my description, and was thinking about the liquid butyl window sealer, since that was the brand I always used sealing gasketed windshields. But the urethane would be just as big of a problem, if not bigger. If you ever needed to remove the glass from the frame with it urethaned in, you may not ever do that successfully, and be able to use the frame over again. Like I said before, use the correct product for the job, and you'll be a lot better off. Both now and later.
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Thanks for the info 52 merc! I'm new here but i always appreciate the answers to stuff I ask!
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This is a big topic on another car forum I'm on, where a huge glass rear hatch has to be bonded to a flimsy aluminum frame. The "fast" urethane apparently sets pretty quickly, which can be a problem on a big piece of glass, but probably not on a vent window.

Merc is right, tho, if you ever need to replace the glass, the urethane will have to be cut with a piano wire or similar, and it will take some work to dig it out of the frame. But that's still probably not a big deal on a small piece like this. Many windshields are set with this stuff, I watched a glass service do a Dakota the other day, must have been 6 tubes worth.
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This is a big topic on another car forum I'm on, where a huge glass rear hatch has to be bonded to a flimsy aluminum frame. The "fast" urethane apparently sets pretty quickly, which can be a problem on a big piece of glass, but probably not on a vent window.
On newer cars, the glass is actually part of the strength and structure of the car, and has to be glued in with urethane to achieve that strength. Some GM mini vans actually have to be blocked under the rocker panel at the front door when replacing the windshield, to keep them from having body damage when replacing the windshield. They have been known to collapse at the cowl if not done properly. That type of adheision is not necessary on a vent window. ;-)
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Well Merc, I have to admit I did use the 3M stuff- Only doing it on the Vent windows though. If it doesn't work out I'll let you know so you can say you told me so! Hopefully i won't need to replace them in the future though- but the glass is in it pretty good for sure-
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