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Old 02-16-2010, 09:28 AM
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1954 F100 on what?

Hey guys, just joined this forum and just today I was looking for frames at a wrecking yard. I have a 1954 f100 cab and hood, and that's what I am starting with to build my rod. I heard all sorts of ideas, but after looking at a ford ranger the frame seams to be perfect. I was looking at 1996-97 because they looked right. The wheel base is just a little bit shorter, but i think it will work. The mid 90s models have the rack and pinion so they seem to be the most attractive. Any ideas, recommendations, considerations? Thanks
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the 54 i bought has an explorer axle with drums, but i'm thinking of using it on the matching trailer and replacing it with a mustang 8.8 with 4 link and air, i want the 2.73 some mustangs came with for better cruising on the freeway rather than the 3.73 or what ever the explorer 8.8 has for 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, i believe some mustangs had a 2.45 but i think that could be to high geared
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:02 PM
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Wink Keep the 54 frame

I heard of the Ranger swap but never heard anything good about it. You start swapping out frames it can get messy. I think keeping the same frame and working with it is a good Idea as long as it isnt trashed.

I use a 2001 explorer 8.8-31 spline 373 rear disc, its basically bullet proof and I got it for about $100, parts are fairly reasonable and it adapts well to the stock frame, I do custom air bags so it was cut and re-welded for my needs, I think you can see pics of it in my profile, I need to update with newer [pictures but you will get the picture.

I used explorer brake cables and adapted it for the 52 hand brake, used a continental drive shaft and custom made a triangulated 4 link suspension....

The trans I use is a 3 speed out of a 67 mustang, (manual)- could go with something else but it literally roast the tires flat if wanted. I cruise on the freeway pulling 3300 at 68-72mph.

Rear end parts are a pain to change after they are installed so please put in what you want the 1st time around.....Have questions just ask,,,,good luck
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I would like to learn more about using the explore springs with the axle swap. How is the ride? If not lowering the truck is the notch necessary?
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Hey Dcommuter,
Welcome aboard. Post some pics when you get a chance so we can see what you are working with. We put the Explorer 8.8in. axle & springs under our 1950 F1. If you use '97 - '01 they come with disc brakes. We went with a 2001 with disc brakes & the 3.73 gearing - it also came with a limited slip differential.

I was a little concerned that the (3) spring set up wouldn't let us use the truck as a truck but it's been fine - we've hauled all kinds of things - couches, water tanks, etc. Our truck did not have an emergency brake so we took the Explorer set up & used it as well. It fits nice.

You will have to move the shock perches - so you have to grind off the old ones. We moved a bed brace to put the shocks where we wanted it - See pic. The ride is more like a truck than a car - a little bouncy but not bad.

Looking good over there.

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Ben, I don't mean to change the subject but what fuel tank are you using?
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Hey Pholmes,
We removed the gas tank from the cab & went out back between the frame rails with a 22 gallon '70 Mustang Tank. There is a good write up on here by a user named jniolin - search & it'll pop up. I think we paid $120 through Rockauto.com for the tank & another $70 for the sending unit.

o It's not totally plug & play - you have to shave a little bit off frame rail to get it in there & build a frame for it. John Niolin has good schematics.

o Getting the Tank to talk to the Gauge was a PITA. We used after market gauges & needed a sender that used modern 0ohms to 200 ohms for Empty /Full. (We used the '70 sending unit for the fuel pick up line & soldered a universal sending unit on with the float - it works fine).

o It's really nice to get 40% more range for our truck vs the 16 gallon stock tank. You fill the tank through the Bed with this option.

Keep asking questions - lot's of knowledgeable friendly guys on here.

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jada0327, checkout the explorer frame they are 1" longer than stock, most people use then already have the rack and pinion and 8.8 rear! its the only way to go!! George.
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Thanks Ben! I want to try and get the filler to the tank down behind the license plate so I dont have to fill from inside the bed. Need a tank with a fill tube that's on the back of the tank instead of on top like the mustang. I may just have to move the filler on a mustang tank.
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Hey Pholmes,
You may be able to take the filler tube out the back & make it work with this tank. It's a pretty tight space between the bed wood & the top of the tank.

Here is a pic. of our bed with a marine boat filler lid installed.

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Thanks Ben. Very nice build by the way.
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Thanks for your note on the explorer springs. It looks like you kept the axle on top of the springs and did not notch the frame. You mentioned a little bouncy but not bottoming out or anything. Did you use Ranger hangers like mt54? Did you shave the hangers or move the spring perch? Sorry for all the questions, I am picking up a 2000 explorer rear end and springs tomorrow so I trying to figure out the best way to put it in. Based on the advise I will also grab the sway bar and emergency brake all the way to the peddle though I would like to find a way to connect it to the pull lever in the in 56. Thanks again
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Hey Dcommuter,
I'll have to take some pics of our final set up when my son brings the truck down tonight from college. Zack borrows the truck a lot to impress the college girls.

We didn't do anything with the frame. Just had to move the one bed brace to mount our shocks. There are a number of different ways to mount the shocks. The springs we originally set up over the axle but I thought the rake was too high so we flipped it to lower it a bit. Pics to follow. You'll be happy with the 8.8 - good choice.

Keep up the momentum.

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Hey Ben,
Are you saying the explorer springs were used with the factory F1 spring hangers in their stock locations? Or did you use Ranger or other hangers?
I show the explorer springs as much longer than the stock F1 springs, 45" for the F1 vs 56 3/4" for the explorer and 2" wide vs 2" 1/2" for the explorer.
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