hey guys, im planning on pulling a heavy load and want to know what you think.

truck is a 94 f350 4wd NA 7.3 4.56 gears. i usually have 38" swampers on it but for this trip i am running the stock tires and wheels 235s

i will be running from long island to south dakota and back. with the 38s, it pulls a 3600lb car on an open trailer at 75 no problem. in the hills of PA, it will pull them 50-60 mph with the load and big tires.

what am i looking at with this 20k load and the little tires? will it do it? should i take a little gear out with a set of 305 70s i have?

thanks for any input
Ray

 

It will pull it you just ain't going to break any speed records.

 

Not sure if you're talking truck and trailer and then adding a 20K load to that, or if the truck, trailer and load total will be 20K. Either way, if you make it there and back in one piece, without DOT having a heyday, I'd be surprised. I can't see how you could legally license that truck for that sort of weight.

The other thing I wonder is getting it going is likely do-able, but I'm not sure how you will have the braking power required to stop it if needed in a hurry. Maybe if you can clarify better what and how you are going to have this loaded we can make better sense of it all.

 

its a 7000lb open trailer with tripple axles and brakes. 13000lbs of awd dynojet dyno. its heavy but not that large so dot is not gonna be noticing anything. and it has brakes so its not a death trap. i was just wondering if its gonna be a 40 mph trip or not...and if i should run the 235s with the 456s

 

I have never had 4.56 in one of these but with 4.10 and 235's I have been that heavy quite a few times and it handled it pretty well. It depends a lot on what kind of wind load you are going to have with your trailer, it seems to me that wind load hurts more than weight.

 

You have a CDL and are you licensed for 28,000 pounds?

20,000 pounds of trailer, plus the weight of the truck will have you in CDL terretory.
And the first set of scales you hit, the DOT will know everything.

PS you also need a DOT number to pull a trailer that heavy.

 

DOT will be your biggest issue. I wasn't quite that heavy, but have a triple axle trailer that used to be a horse trailer I reworked into a flatbed to haul two cars. I made the run to South Dakota from SE Iowa with that load no issues. It only would be about 6000# for the trailer, and 3-4000# per car. Truck is around 8000#. I didn't get noticed by the DOT, but doesn't mean it can't happen. Typically out this way they don't care about the private haulers like that, only the heavy haulers. Farms and ranches aren't required to have CDL if they stay within 100 miles of the base in South Dakota, and I think Iowa is if it is for farm business only. (Although I know of some DOT officials that say otherwise). I also hauled a two car trailer into Wisconsin hauling two 4000# minimum cars, had an incident with the duals coming off the tow rig, and didn't get into any trouble with the authorities, just wasn't popular with the others involved... Main thing is that it is private, not for hire type. Commercial tends to be seen differently.

 

im looking to cut some weight off the trailer end by finding a lighter trailer to borrow that can still haul the weight. im also hoping i wont stand out.. i shouldnt and i also have regular plates on the truck. it is what it is... im sure im not the first overloaded regular non commercial truck on here lol.

i know the dot risks.. ive also read about how much weight you guys have pulled while searching other threads. i was more inquiring about tire size choices and whatnot. i think ill go with the 235s.

ill be going the speed limit or slower and in the right lane. wish me luck!

 

Defiantly true. The only legal other way is if you had farm plates. I have been cross country multiple times with that much weight and never been stopped.

Just play the dumb card if you get stopped. "I'm sorry officer with this F350 I didn't even notice the weight back there. I just thought it weighed a couple thousand pounds or so." And don't tell them its for someone else because then your "for hire" and require a DOT #.

 

lol thats so true

 

yea definitly. it "looks" like its 4000lb load. and it is for myself anyway. cant wait to see what the old IDI does climbing the mountains its one reliable ride, thats for sure

 

You will be going slow across Pa., you have several good pulls up there on I 80.

I would go with the 235 tires I think.

What transmission do you have?

If you only have regular plates, probably 8800 pounds.

Say 26,000 - 8800 = 17,200 overweight.
That won't be funny if you do get nailed.

 

I also would suggest the 235-85 16 load E, used to run 9.50 16.5 load D (cam with the truck, I liked the rims) but I kept shredding the 9.50's, and they are more expensive and harder to find. I don't have half the problem with the load E's.

 

Man....26k pounds! I gotta try that one day with my 7.3 Heaviest i've ever hauled with it was a lil over 19k pounds (including truck). The right lane was my friend for the whole trip!

 

Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa and South Dakota.

If you run the toll road across Indiana, that gets you down to 7 states to worry about the scales in.

And Pa. is the worst of the bunch.

Can't remember the exact way it happened, but I remember a story on here several years ago about a fine over 2500 dollars with a horse trailer.
CDL and no DOT number were part of the equation though.

Your pickup needs to be registered for the weight of the entire rig, truck, people, fuel, and trailer.
As far as I know an RV trailer is the only exemption other than farm use, and that has to be within X miles of your farm.

Running down the road 100 miles is one thing, across 8 states is a whole new ball game.