Offroading Shortfalls
#18
You can easily run a 285/75-17 with no issues at all. Plus they aren't too wide for the stock wheels-no real wear issues. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of choices in that size. Nitto and Toyo both have it though in their A/T's. I also know that the Toyos are still E rated for carrying capacity. Food for thought.
#19
I had 315/70/17 on stock wheels with no lift and had no rubbing issues at all, even off road...
I still have that size tire but have since installed a 6" lift and new wheels, the lift is a big help offroad with the extra clearance! stock it is easy to scrap the front or back end of these trucks! the shocks I used came with the kit which are the Procomp MX6 6 way adjustable and work very well.
BFG AT's are great tires!! have had them on all my trucks for years. if you are doing alot of driving on gravel AT tires will pick up gravel in the tread and fling them out once you get back on the highway and can leave some nasty paint chips...just a thought for ya but other than that they work awsome and last alot longer than MT tires.
I would vote on an Air locker but they aren't cheap! a limited slip would be better than stock and not too bad on the check book...
I still have that size tire but have since installed a 6" lift and new wheels, the lift is a big help offroad with the extra clearance! stock it is easy to scrap the front or back end of these trucks! the shocks I used came with the kit which are the Procomp MX6 6 way adjustable and work very well.
BFG AT's are great tires!! have had them on all my trucks for years. if you are doing alot of driving on gravel AT tires will pick up gravel in the tread and fling them out once you get back on the highway and can leave some nasty paint chips...just a thought for ya but other than that they work awsome and last alot longer than MT tires.
I would vote on an Air locker but they aren't cheap! a limited slip would be better than stock and not too bad on the check book...
#20
I go offroad at least 35% of the time with this truck.
I believe I have the 3.73 gears
17 in rims 265s tires
I had no rubbing issues I believe their is plenty of room for bigger tires without the lift
I will have to do the mods in stages The first one will probably be tires and or Shocks.
I believe I have the 3.73 gears
17 in rims 265s tires
I had no rubbing issues I believe their is plenty of room for bigger tires without the lift
I will have to do the mods in stages The first one will probably be tires and or Shocks.
As for shocks, I recommend the Bilstein 5100's. They are zinc coated and will endure the harsh salt winter roads in your area of the country. They are also designed for mild off-roading but still provide a quality ride on the street.
#21
#23
The Ford 10.5" rear axle in our truck doesn't have a lot of suport for locking differentials. The last time I checked it was either the Detroit No-Spin if you want an automatic locking differential or the ARB air locker if you're interested in the selectable locking differential. While many off road teams all over the globe run the ARB, I'm not ready to buy all the related components needed to make it work: air line, fittings, compressor, pressure tank, etc. The Detroit, on the other hand, could affect handling. I've never driven a Super Duty with an auto locker so I can't say it whether or not it'll negatively change the way my truck drives on the street.
2) What part of your suspension needs upgrading? Were you limited by stock approack/breakover/departure angles or was the ride not satisfactory?
3) Betters tires can make a world of difference. Just don't get too caught up in thinking everything is about tires. If you're running trails that flex out your suspension and aren't dominated with lots of loose sand or deep mud, then lockers will be more important than tires. It won't matter if you have Super Swamper Boggers if you can't get power to a wheel that has weight on it. I had factory street tires and then upgraded to 35" mud terrain tires. I still can't cross one gully because I can't get engine power to the wheels that need it. And going in head-in isn't an option because of approach & departure angles.
With that said, tires do make a huge difference. Personally, I'm not a fan of A/T tread tires. While they're better than factory tires, they still load up badly in mud. They're noiser than OEM tires. The problem I have with them is that they're good, but not quite good enough. They have a lot of the drawbacks of more aggressive tires on road with fewer benefits off road of the M/T tread tires. Kind of like a limited slip where I 'wheel.
M/T tires have come very far in technology. More and more M/Ts are sipped for wet road traction. Tread patterns are no longer just look like tractor tires back in the 70s but are designed by computers to minimize road noise, channel water, and self clean debris from the tread. The tires I'm running now are mud grips, and I promise you they behave better on wet roads than any other tire I've ever run including every generation of BFG All Terrain and every generation of BFG Mud Terrain except for the most current KM2 which I have not personally run.
If you really spend 35% of your time off road, then I feel like you'd be disappointed by a set of A/Ts. The only thing that may provide additional consideration is that you live where it snows. Still, the advantages I recognize on wet roads still likely has benefits in snow & slush.
I know I just posed a book, but I really enjoy hitting up trails in my Super Duty. And I'm sharing what works for me. Let us know how things go once you start modding!
#24
I would agree that you should start with tires, then see how the truck works for what you are facing. Lockers and lifts are cool, but you may not really need them.
No on mentioned it, but it could also be that your rear differential has too much friction modifier in it. You might want to change the fluid and add a smaller amount if the friction modifier to get your LS differential to act properly.
No on mentioned it, but it could also be that your rear differential has too much friction modifier in it. You might want to change the fluid and add a smaller amount if the friction modifier to get your LS differential to act properly.
#25
The Ford 10.5" rear axle in our truck doesn't have a lot of suport for locking differentials. The last time I checked it was either the Detroit No-Spin if you want an automatic locking differential or the ARB air locker if you're interested in the selectable locking differential. While many off road teams all over the globe run the ARB, I'm not ready to buy all the related components needed to make it work: air line, fittings, compressor, pressure tank, etc. The Detroit, on the other hand, could affect handling. I've never driven a Super Duty with an auto locker so I can't say it whether or not it'll negatively change the way my truck drives on the street.
#26
Look in to the Hankook Dynapro ATm's. I put them on my 99 last winter when I was in Colorado and their grip in the snow (both powder & heavy wet) was excellent! I don't do much offroading, but what little I did was handled very well by these tires. I have 3.73s, limited slip in the rear and no problems going through drywashes, gravel, etc.
#27
I'm going to OBX next week for a little surffishing and I'll let you know how it turns out...
Another point that no one may want to hear but if you're into SERIOUS ofroading the SD's are really not a good choice. They're just too big, weigh too much and don't have good approach & departure angles. There are alot of better alternatives...
#28
Good tires and maybe 3" of lift would help immensly,,,start with tires for sure,,bigger, taller traction type tires are going to get the truck up higher,,and give it atleast some traction,,,then you will findout your trucks other short cummings,,,like a locker and maybe some lift to help approach and departure angles.
EDIT: I see papadelogan has Hankook DynaPro AT tires,,,well I have the Hankook DynaPro MT tires for my winter set of tires,,Studded for better traction,,,these tires are great for traction,,,in Mud and Snow,,some road Noise,,my Hankooks are 285/70/17, 33" tall load range D at 3195 lbs each,,,,pd $659.00 to my door from Ebay for 4 tires!
This is my 3rd year to run them,,,on my truck now,,show some wear,,about 10k miles on them,,,will see how they do this winter and how they wear.
EDIT: I see papadelogan has Hankook DynaPro AT tires,,,well I have the Hankook DynaPro MT tires for my winter set of tires,,Studded for better traction,,,these tires are great for traction,,,in Mud and Snow,,some road Noise,,my Hankooks are 285/70/17, 33" tall load range D at 3195 lbs each,,,,pd $659.00 to my door from Ebay for 4 tires!
This is my 3rd year to run them,,,on my truck now,,show some wear,,about 10k miles on them,,,will see how they do this winter and how they wear.
#29
Tires and a good limited slip will make a world of difference. There is a selectable front locker. The shocks will help with the ride. A lift will help with breakover angles etc. If you just hunting and not trying to run the rubicon I would think simply getting a more aggressive tire would suffice. The bfg kms I have made a huge difference over at tires I've had. I hardly use 4x4 unless I'm in some pretty nasty stuff.
#30
i have a leaffront end and i had 285-75/16 before i put on the 13.5" wide 33 inch swampers and i'm running stock height and i don't rub, i tried out a set of 315's before the swampers and they only rubbed when turning into a large dip or bump.