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Old 11-15-2009, 11:20 PM
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Wiring Diagrams, Radio Pinouts Ford Expedition

I am looking for the Radio Pinout/Wiring Diagram or Schematic Whatever it needs to called for:

2003 Ford Expedition With Navigation
2003 Ford Expedition WithOUT Navigation
2005 Ford Expedition With Navigation
2005 Ford Expedition WithOUT Navigation

I need all the plug pinouts that come with the vehicle...not your basic red black orange and speaker wires.

I am looking for the Harness Side Diagrams for Each I believe on the 05 There are 3 (possibly 5)

The same may go for the 03 Expy....
If you can come up with an O7 Expedition Pinout as well that would be great!!

I do not want to be directed to a check here its only 24.95 or whatever I have been searching for about a month and have come up with just about every option except what I need.

Also...if any =one knows the exact perfect of the MUX units serve besides a requirment if you have SAT and RSE, what does it do?

Thanks in Advance
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:15 AM
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Go to the12volt.com and sign up (free). They have wiring diagrams for those years on their site for free.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:26 PM
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Here's what I found in a 30 sec. search for the 03.

Car Radio Battery Constant 12v+ Wire: Light Green/Violet
Car Radio Accessory Switched 12v+ Wire: Pink/Light Green
Car Radio Ground Wire: Black/Light Green
Car Radio Illumination Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Antenna Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amp Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amplifier Location: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Location: N/A
Left Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Orange/Light Green
Left Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Light Blue/White
Right Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): White/Light Green
Right Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Dark Green/Orange
Car Audio Rear Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Rear Speakers Location: N/A
Left Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Gray/Light Blue
Left Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Tan/Yellow
Right Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Orange/Red
Right Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Pink

And here's what it says for the 05.

Car Radio Battery Constant 12v+ Wire: Light Green/Violet
Car Radio Accessory Switched 12v+ Wire: Pink/Light Green
Car Radio Ground Wire: Black/Light Green
Car Radio Illumination Wire: Light Blue/Red
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Antenna Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amp Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amplifier Location: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Location: N/A
Left Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Orange/Light Green
Left Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Light Blue/White
Right Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): White/Light Green
Right Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Dark Green/Orange
Car Audio Rear Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Rear Speakers Location: N/A
Left Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Gray/Light Blue
Left Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Tan/Yellow
Right Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Orange/Red
Right Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Pink

Here's the one for the 07.

Car Radio Battery Constant 12v+ Wire: White/Violet
Car Radio Accessory Switched 12v+ Wire: Black/Pink
Car Radio Ground Wire: Black/Green
Car Radio Illumination Wire: Blue/Black
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Antenna Trigger Wire: Yellow/Orange
Car Stereo Amp Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amplifier Location: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Location: N/A
Left Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): White/Red
Left Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown
Right Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Green
Right Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): White/Orange
Car Audio Rear Speakers Size: N/A
Car Audio Rear Speakers Location: N/A
Left Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Light Blue/Black
Left Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Yellow
Right Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Violet/White
Right Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Light Blue
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pinouts

I have found those entries as well, they are general pinout descriptions, each of which is not very helpful. None of which show the CAN BUS System, the actual harness pinouts, Navigation Pinouts, VSS or any other importtant info.

Those are great if you are hooking up a stereo and bought adapter plugs, this is available on the package of the plug.

I need the wiring schematics to know where they go in the cars. It is not possible to put a nav radio from an 03 into an 05 unless it was factory wired, you cannot put a nav radio from an 07 into an 03-06. By obtaining these diagrams/schematics I will be able to figure out open harness pins and where they could go.

So if anyone has the schematic/diagrams/pinouts or whatever a person likes to call these un-obtainable documents, please let me know.

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I have found those entries as well, they are general pinout descriptions, each of which is not very helpful. None of which show the CAN BUS System, the actual harness pinouts, Navigation Pinouts, VSS or any other importtant info.

Those are great if you are hooking up a stereo and bought adapter plugs, this is available on the package of the plug.

I need the wiring schematics to know where they go in the cars. It is not possible to put a nav radio from an 03 into an 05 unless it was factory wired, you cannot put a nav radio from an 07 into an 03-06. By obtaining these diagrams/schematics I will be able to figure out open harness pins and where they could go.

So if anyone has the schematic/diagrams/pinouts or whatever a person likes to call these un-obtainable documents, please let me know.

Thank You
Oh, that's gonna be a LOT of information. The amount of information in Alldata for just one of those vehicles is quite a bit. Unfortunately, Alldata doesn't let you copy, paste, save to file, etc. any of their info, which means that you'd have to print out each diagram. Do you know any mechanics that would let you search their Alldata programs for the information?
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I do not know anyone with access to AllData. Thats the problem. Its easy to find the simple wiring pinouts. The schematics I need are going to help figure the problem out and how things work.

I also want to know what exactly the MUX unit is for when using satellite and if you can remove the satellite and install something else if the MUX can be used similar to a bypass and allow for other items to be installed, whether it be aftermarket stereo, or input adaptors
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Alldata doesn't let you copy, paste, save to file, etc. any of their info
Anything is possible, you just have to know how to circumvent that sort of thing.
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circumvent-tation begin...

Not sure if anyone has followed or stumbled across this, but curios if there has been progress to the hunt for these Documents...

Thanks
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If anyone still needs access to wiring diagrams, I have some access to the Ford Technician documents. They need to be pretty specific, as they cover every harness and connector in every vehicle.

Post requests and I will see what I can provide. I am not sure how to post anything other than pics on the forum, so for those who need the diagrams (in pdf file format), you will need to provide an email address to send the attachment(s) to. You can send the email address to me via my user profile (I think - just add me as a friend via the cp).

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enphluence,

I have full diagrams for 2003, 2005, and 2007 Expedition / Navigator. These are the official Ford Tech diagrams from the service site. Send email addy and I will get them to you.

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I am looking for the Radio Pinout/Wiring Diagram or Schematic Whatever it needs to called for:

2003 Ford Expedition With Navigation
2003 Ford Expedition WithOUT Navigation
2005 Ford Expedition With Navigation
2005 Ford Expedition WithOUT Navigation

I need all the plug pinouts that come with the vehicle...not your basic red black orange and speaker wires.

I am looking for the Harness Side Diagrams for Each I believe on the 05 There are 3 (possibly 5)

The same may go for the 03 Expy....
If you can come up with an O7 Expedition Pinout as well that would be great!!

I do not want to be directed to a check here its only 24.95 or whatever I have been searching for about a month and have come up with just about every option except what I need.

Also...if any =one knows the exact perfect of the MUX units serve besides a requirment if you have SAT and RSE, what does it do?

Thanks in Advance
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:13 PM
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Expy Pinout

I sent you over a message and my email...Thanks, not sure if you will see this post as well, but I forgot to include Vehicles with Navigation and Vehicles without Navigation as well as the Audiophile Sub 6 Disc Changer Systems.
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The diagrams are all-inclusive - you just need to select the section that applies. I have to generate the pdf's from the web-site pages, so it will take awhile to get them all generated. Should have them by the end of the week. The site I get them from is sometimes unfriendly, as it uses a some ActiveX and Java plugins that sometimes lock up the browser, and it's only compatible with Internet Explorer 7 and below. But all the information is there and available, and in the most detailed format available.

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I sent you some diagrams via the email you sent.

I can also send a screen shot of what is available on the web-site - if the info I sent isn't enough, then you could just select from the options available on the site.

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I sent you over a message and my email...Thanks, not sure if you will see this post as well, but I forgot to include Vehicles with Navigation and Vehicles without Navigation as well as the Audiophile Sub 6 Disc Changer Systems.
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I don't quite understand the MUX units question...


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Also...if any =one knows the exact perfect of the MUX units serve besides a requirment if you have SAT and RSE, what does it do?

Thanks in Advance
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Wow...Thanks a million for the Diagrams...I sent you an email as well regarding a few other questions and some information.
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