Cracked head or injector sleeve
#1
Cracked head or injector sleeve
I started to panic last night,couldn't get on FTE so I went on a diff. site and threw out this.....
About a week ago I started to smell raw diesel, couldn't find the source.
Yesterday I had an appointment for the recall, so when the hood was up I looked again. I had fuel on and around the passenger side battery. Figured the fuel bowl drain went south but no problem, I got the mechanics set of o- rings.
When I climbed in to start fixin, I noticed the Degas bottle was FULL. Well now we know why I smelled fuel, About mid summer I just changed out my elc.
So what is bad 1 or 2 cylinder heads or, as someone on that powerstroke site suggested, a cracked injector sleeve. I did check the oil and thankfully did not see/smell evidence of fuel.
02 7.3 150,000 miles not really any upgrades besides 203* thermostat and recently rebuilt the turbo and added a WW
Thanks in advance Jeff
About a week ago I started to smell raw diesel, couldn't find the source.
Yesterday I had an appointment for the recall, so when the hood was up I looked again. I had fuel on and around the passenger side battery. Figured the fuel bowl drain went south but no problem, I got the mechanics set of o- rings.
When I climbed in to start fixin, I noticed the Degas bottle was FULL. Well now we know why I smelled fuel, About mid summer I just changed out my elc.
So what is bad 1 or 2 cylinder heads or, as someone on that powerstroke site suggested, a cracked injector sleeve. I did check the oil and thankfully did not see/smell evidence of fuel.
02 7.3 150,000 miles not really any upgrades besides 203* thermostat and recently rebuilt the turbo and added a WW
Thanks in advance Jeff
#2
It sounds like you are on the right track unfortunately. Never had to do mine (knock on wood). Here is a good link: Damn leaking fuel injector cup R&R project. I also remember seeing a good thread on here a while back about the injector cups. I'll see if I can find it.
Here is the other thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...llar-bolt.html
Here is the other thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...llar-bolt.html
#4
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Swamp's Diesel Performance
Here is where i got mine. It is the only thing i ever bought from them but it was good service. I think it was around 120 for all the cups, tool, and shipping. I just sent the tool back when i was done. And best i can remember, i think i bought my orings from ED. Here is his link.
www.y2kfordparts.com
I got some pics of doing mine. My motor was out but if you need any pics or anything feel free to ask.
Here is where i got mine. It is the only thing i ever bought from them but it was good service. I think it was around 120 for all the cups, tool, and shipping. I just sent the tool back when i was done. And best i can remember, i think i bought my orings from ED. Here is his link.
www.y2kfordparts.com
I got some pics of doing mine. My motor was out but if you need any pics or anything feel free to ask.
#7
I don' know why I didn't think about Ed, I'll check. I have about 4 days to make this happen, plus I have to finish a roof that I have started for a customer, so availability is a concern. I did open it up last night, couldn't stand waiting and wondering anymore, the first injector out showed me a bad lower o-ring. About half way around it, the outer shell kinda had peeled off.
I'm guessing that's why my mileage has been down this summer. I'm thinking about taking it in to a diesel shop though, and trying to talk him into letting me tear it apart
and then he can take care of the sleeves. I may be peeing into the wind but it's worth a shot. I'm a self employed carpenter, so I need my truck bad. And we all need to try to save $
I'm guessing that's why my mileage has been down this summer. I'm thinking about taking it in to a diesel shop though, and trying to talk him into letting me tear it apart
and then he can take care of the sleeves. I may be peeing into the wind but it's worth a shot. I'm a self employed carpenter, so I need my truck bad. And we all need to try to save $
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#8
I guess I was right, he wouldn't let me tear it apart. I guess I don't blame him, they're slow with work too and then the insurance. I took it in mon. morn., still don't have it back. I think it was best to take it in though, by the time I figured parts I was at 300 and
still didn't have the tap or installer. He said he would charge me a grand, which still hurts. I have dealt with him before, good guy. Thanks for the responses. Jeff
still didn't have the tap or installer. He said he would charge me a grand, which still hurts. I have dealt with him before, good guy. Thanks for the responses. Jeff
#9
Gettin ready to do cups on my 02, checked the local dealer, $12 for each cup, and $10bucks for each injector ring kit, gonna do a pan and a rear main seal while i have the motor out, i know i dont have to remove the engine but i think its gonna be a lot easier, plus i have been debating changing the pan also, its not lookin real great, might not last much longer... and while its out do the rear main, turbo ped. o rings and do a reg return with fuel bowl delete...
#10
I started to panic last night,couldn't get on FTE so I went on a diff. site and threw out this.....
About a week ago I started to smell raw diesel, couldn't find the source.
Yesterday I had an appointment for the recall, so when the hood was up I looked again. I had fuel on and around the passenger side battery. Figured the fuel bowl drain went south but no problem, I got the mechanics set of o- rings.
When I climbed in to start fixin, I noticed the Degas bottle was FULL. Well now we know why I smelled fuel, About mid summer I just changed out my elc.
So what is bad 1 or 2 cylinder heads or, as someone on that powerstroke site suggested, a cracked injector sleeve. I did check the oil and thankfully did not see/smell evidence of fuel.
02 7.3 150,000 miles not really any upgrades besides 203* thermostat and recently rebuilt the turbo and added a WW
Thanks in advance Jeff
About a week ago I started to smell raw diesel, couldn't find the source.
Yesterday I had an appointment for the recall, so when the hood was up I looked again. I had fuel on and around the passenger side battery. Figured the fuel bowl drain went south but no problem, I got the mechanics set of o- rings.
When I climbed in to start fixin, I noticed the Degas bottle was FULL. Well now we know why I smelled fuel, About mid summer I just changed out my elc.
So what is bad 1 or 2 cylinder heads or, as someone on that powerstroke site suggested, a cracked injector sleeve. I did check the oil and thankfully did not see/smell evidence of fuel.
02 7.3 150,000 miles not really any upgrades besides 203* thermostat and recently rebuilt the turbo and added a WW
Thanks in advance Jeff
Got the truck to a stealership and they started checking for leaks. Pulled all injectors and the cups looked good. Pressure tested with a overnite leakdown and it lost 0 pounds. They where ready to pull cups and replace but I didn't feel that was the problem, anyway, it was an internal crack in the fuel rail(head). I was running out of time and it was a 10 day wait to get the heads magnafluxed so I chose to pull both heads and replace. My oil pan was pretty crudy and wouldn't be long before leaking(99 SD) so I had them pull the engine to do the heads and pan. While it was down, I had main seals done along with some clutch work. $6800 and 2 weeks later I was back on the road. Not saying that your problem is the above described, just giving you another senerio that it could be. Would hate to see you get it all back together and have a cracked fuel rail.
#11
Been back on the road over a month since sleeves were replaced and everything seems good. Now since it was in it doesn't want to start in cold, only if plugged in or otherwise warm. If I would have done the job I was gonna put in new glow plugs, but the guy who did it only replaced one. I'm guessing a couple might not be plugged in, been cold here so I'll just try to keep it plugged in and warm til I can pull it apart.
#12
Glad to hear you got it fixed. On the cold start check out your glow plug relay. There will be two big post on it. The one on the passanger side of the relay should be hot all the time and when you turn the key on the post towards the drivers side should be hot. Here is a pic courtesy of Chris: https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...184644&width=0
The yellow/brown wires should be hot with the key on for up to two minutes.
The yellow/brown wires should be hot with the key on for up to two minutes.
#14
Been back on the road over a month since sleeves were replaced and everything seems good. Now since it was in it doesn't want to start in cold, only if plugged in or otherwise warm. If I would have done the job I was gonna put in new glow plugs, but the guy who did it only replaced one. I'm guessing a couple might not be plugged in, been cold here so I'll just try to keep it plugged in and warm til I can pull it apart.
Glad you got away with just sleeves and didn't have to go through what I did.
TDPower got you going in the right direction, my truck is a 99 and over it's life span so far I have replaced 3 relays.
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