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Old 09-04-2014, 10:37 AM
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4. Seeing as the Ford Racing cooler can be indexed, why not use it and avoid all the hose issues associated with remote mount adapters?

I agree. When I do this again I will probably use the Ford Racing Adapter instead of the remote oil filter kit.

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5. How likely is the breach of coolant into the oem cooler? There has to be thousands out there running the stock set up without issue.

I have two other 460 equipped trucks with the stock set-up and neither one has shown any signs of heat exchanger failure... yet. My 1997 F-350 Dually has 170K miles on it and my 1995 F-250 4x4 has 130K, they are both fine so far.

The one that failed was my 1996 F-350 SRW with 145K on it. I guess you can't predict heat exchanger failure by mileage. Since I check the oil and coolant often I'm sure I'll catch any heat exchanger problems on the other two trucks in plenty of time.

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I am seriously considering this mod but don't like losing the cooling capacity provided by the oem cooler. I will be towing a TT/5er with my truck, in hot weather, and am hesitant about the mod for reasons explained above.
I think installing a bigger radiator would be much more effective at cooling the engine than adding an oil cooler to compensate for the loss of the OEM heat exchanger. The Ford Racing Adapter should be fine in that case.

Most important is a very good transmission cooler. That and a bigger radiator would be my priorities for building a tow vehicle that doesn't overheat.

Btw my dual filter kit is still holding up despite overheating both the engine and transmission while towing a 6000 lb. tractor on a 16 ft. flatbed up some very steep hills. The radiator blew a hose and the tranny blew the front seal but the dual filter kit was fine.

I replaced the hose and the tranny seal and the truck still runs and shifts perfect. Gotta love the 460/E4OD combo!
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Also, how much engine oil cooling can be expected by using 100% synthetic oil. Maybe this is the solution to engine oil cooling to make up for the loss of the oem cooler.

I can't say for certain how much it helps cooling, but synthetic oil definitely retains more viscosity at higher temps and lasts much longer than regular oil.


I'm a 100% believer in synthetic oil. I've used Mobil 1 full synthetic in all my trucks for years and I've never had an internal engine part wear out.


Here's what first sold me on it; I once bought a 1978 Ford E-250 van with 190K miles on it. The 351 engine had a worn connecting rod bearing which would knock on start-up but go quiet in a few seconds when the oil pressure came up. I put Mobil 1 synthetic in it and drove it until I sold it with 310K miles on it. The 3-second rod knock never went away, but it never got any worse.
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I am also a big fan of synthetic fluids. I had an older chevy that had some crankcase pressure issues due to low tension rings. I would get smoke out of the valve cover breathers. The synthetic oil does not burn like conventional oil so it helped with that issue.

For better cooling I installed an aluminum radiator. http://www.andysautosport.com/produc...s__CC1451.html

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I've read some posts on not using synthetic on these older engines as they cause or result in oils leaks
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I've read some posts on not using synthetic on these older engines as they cause or result in oils leaks
The synthetic oil will find any leaks but those should be repaired anyways. I don't think that is a disqualifier but something you should be aware of. Unless you like lubricated seals, lol.
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For better cooling I installed an aluminum radiator. http://www.andysautosport.com/produc...s__CC1451.html

Thanks for that link. I see the 4-row Champion aluminum radiator is not available for my 1997 F-350 Dually. How is that 3-row working out for you? Is there a big difference from stock?
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Thanks for that link. I see the 4-row Champion aluminum radiator is not available for my 1997 F-350 Dually. How is that 3-row working out for you? Is there a big difference from stock?
I am just getting the truck back on the road from a complete steering overhaul, I will let you know.

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I am just getting the truck back on the road from a complete steering overhaul, I will let you know.

Thanks. Looks great!


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I've read some posts on not using synthetic on these older engines as they cause or result in oils leaks
I've never had that happen in any of the older engines I've used synthetic in, no matter how many miles on them.

There are many myths floating around about synthetic oil. Some of them may have been true back when synthetic first came out years ago, but there have been many improvements in the formulas since then. The leaking issue was addressed a long time ago by adding an ingredient that swells gaskets like regular oil does.

One myth that's never been true is the one that says once you use synthetic, you can't go back to regular oil. Another is that you can't mix synthetic with regular oil. Both these are, and have always been, pure BS.
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