we got the vehicles when no one else could fix the problem. once they left us, they never came back. it all depends on the quality of the last mechanic.
Well put. I don't believe there are any bad dogs or bad vehicles, but bad owners or mechanics can trash alot of good!
A vehicle that has had the same problem fixed 4 times may have never had the problem fixed at all... but that doesn't make it the vehicles fault.
Gather more information. Might be a turd, might be a deal on a diamond.
I'll side with GP and 04 on this one. There is very little that can't be fixed on any of these vehicles. It all depends on the time alloted and the experience and knowledge of the tech doing the work.
I will say everything except electrical bugs. . .. electrical gremlins are very difficult to diagnose.
True that electrical bugs can be extremely difficult to overcome, however, with the proper amount of time, tools, and tech knowledge, ANY problem can be fixed. The issue most run into is that most techs, most dealerships, are flat rate shops. Try and talk a flat rate tech into spending a day or a couple of days diagnosing a problem that warranty pays 1 hour for. Not gonna happen. That tech is going to throw parts, more parts, more parts, sacrifice a pidgeon in the middle of the shop, more parts, more parts, etc. THAT'S where you come across most of these issues. Find a Master Diagnostic Tech who isn't getting shafted by corporate warranty BS?... You're car gets fixed.
Of course anything can be fixed with enough time and money but today, in the real "Ford' world, that parameter doesn't exist. So back to the main point on whether to purchase a car/truck that has been bought back by the dealer either by choice or force of the lemon law, doesn't take much logic to steer away from the lemon.
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1978 F250 Lariat 4x2
True that electrical bugs can be extremely difficult to overcome, however, with the proper amount of time, tools, and tech knowledge, ANY problem can be fixed. The issue most run into is that most techs, most dealerships, are flat rate shops. Try and talk a flat rate tech into spending a day or a couple of days diagnosing a problem that warranty pays 1 hour for. Not gonna happen. That tech is going to throw parts, more parts, more parts, sacrifice a pidgeon in the middle of the shop, more parts, more parts, etc. THAT'S where you come across most of these issues. Find a Master Diagnostic Tech who isn't getting shafted by corporate warranty BS?... You're car gets fixed.
Good luck with that though.
I have been the victim of that kind of strategy in the past where they just kept fixing "the most likely culprit" and steer away from warranty covered items, but the car still had the problem almost 3G later. Complain and demand a refund, no dice. Took it all the way to corporate in Detroit with no satisfaction. It's just the way the car dealer's run there service. I understand they have to make money, but you would think that they would also be interested in keeping a customer coming back to buy again, but I guess they figure they have enough suckers coming back that they don't need to go out of their way to satisfy you. That was a few years ago though and maybe the climate has changed now with the new economic reality of the car business. Wishful thinking??
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