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Old 11-09-2009, 06:05 AM
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I see there are a lot of quality manufactures who recommend this type of fuel and I'm wondering why Ford is not one of them. Does anyone think it's worth going out of your way to fill up with it?

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Old 11-09-2009, 07:08 AM
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I don't think it would hurt if you ran a tank of the fancy stuff every 4th or 5th tank. As I read these "Top Tier Fuels" are suppose to keep the engine clean, that's nice but there additives to regular fuel that will clean up also. I run the regular 87 octane but will run a 90+ octane tank every 4th or 5th tank, most of the major brands have the detergent gas in the pumps. I will also run Mystery Oil in the tank (hold over from diesel truck days) and never have had an engine problems. Chris
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:37 AM
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Since the minimum additive performance standards were first established by EPA in 1995, most gasoline marketers have actually reduced the concentration level of detergent additive in their gasoline by up to 50%. As a result, the ability of a vehicle to maintain stringent Tier 2 emission standards have been hampered, leading to engine deposits which can have a big impact on in-use emissions and driver satisfaction.
I always go out of my way to find top tier gas whenever I can. The price isn't normally any higher than the competing stations and I think it's worthwhile to go a bit out of my way for. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any such standard for diesel, but I always use Shell gas in my wife's car and my motorcycle.

Premium gas won't help your engine any. As long as the octane is sufficient to prevent pinging, you won't gain anything by going to a higher grade of gas.

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From what I have seen, Top Tier Gas (87 octane) has cost me no more than regular gas (87 octane). I learned about this from my brother, who owns a VW product, and he was told straight from the dealer to only use Top Tier Gasoline.
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My Taurus is my DD. I've noticed that if I use Exxon gas, my MPG's are slightly better than if I use an off brand supplier. Prices are typically with 3-4 cents of each other.

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My Taurus is my DD. I've noticed that if I use Exxon gas, my MPG's are slightly better than if I use an off brand supplier. Prices are typically with 3-4 cents of each other.

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In my home town in southern Minnesota, there is one station that sells Top Tier and their prices are the same as those who don't.
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If it's available when I need fuel then yes I will get the top tier stuff. Unless they have the ethanol sticker on the pumps. Then I drive off to somewhere without it.
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Why bother is my view. Last truck was 9 years old with 180,000 miles, ran great. It was a 5.4 4x4 and had the original plugs, fuel filter, belts, hoses, wires, rotors, exhaust, engine collant, etc. etc. and all that on rock gut fuel. Even Ford says in the manual that you should not need to use a fuel system cleaner as modern fuels have those additives.

Seriously, I don't see the need to pay more for nothing becuase someone advertises well.
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Hey guess what. I have been using this "Top Tier Fuel" the whole time. The station I use has only TTF so when I was switching back and forth on the octane levels I was only shorting my wallet. But I am still going to use Mystery Oil, my one MBZ has 375,000 miles on it and it purrs just like new. See look at the stuff you can learn on the forum. Chris
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I believe I first learned about top tier fuel on FTE a few years ago...this is why I keep coming back!
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Hey guess what. I have been using this "Top Tier Fuel" the whole time. The station I use has only TTF so when I was switching back and forth on the octane levels I was only shorting my wallet. But I am still going to use Mystery Oil, my one MBZ has 375,000 miles on it and it purrs just like new. See look at the stuff you can learn on the forum. Chris
See what a life long Chevy/first time Ford guy can teach? lol

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My Taurus is my DD. I've noticed that if I use Exxon gas, my MPG's are slightly better than if I use an off brand supplier. Prices are typically with 3-4 cents of each other.

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Exxon is not top tier gasoline.
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Exxon is not top tier gasoline.
Everyone here is talking top tier gas, Does anyone here know what makes a gas top tier? All the gas coming down the pipeline to the individual terminals is the same, almost. When BP puts 50 thousand barrels into the pipe line most of the time it gets to the bp terminal. and sometimes it goes to the citgo terminal and so on. There is a minimum standard for gasoline set by the feds, and that is what most refiners meet, the minimum. There is a couple of refiners that do exceed the minimum standards set by the feds. What brings the gas up is the additives added to the gas at the terminal. I have seen a "top tier" advertised at a particuler branded station that is not "top tier" they use the lowest quality of fuel from a certian terminal that i would never ever buy from. When you go to a citgo station it may not be citgo gas or mobil stations my not sell mobil gas. Some station owners buy the cheapest priced gas from the open market. it is a buyer beware, if you find a gas that runs good stick with it. "top tier" is a generic meaning.
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Everyone here is talking top tier gas, Does anyone here know what makes a gas top tier? All the gas coming down the pipeline to the individual terminals is the same, almost. When BP puts 50 thousand barrels into the pipe line most of the time it gets to the bp terminal. and sometimes it goes to the citgo terminal and so on. There is a minimum standard for gasoline set by the feds, and that is what most refiners meet, the minimum. There is a couple of refiners that do exceed the minimum standards set by the feds. What brings the gas up is the additives added to the gas at the terminal. I have seen a "top tier" advertised at a particuler branded station that is not "top tier" they use the lowest quality of fuel from a certian terminal that i would never ever buy from. When you go to a citgo station it may not be citgo gas or mobil stations my not sell mobil gas. Some station owners buy the cheapest priced gas from the open market. it is a buyer beware, if you find a gas that runs good stick with it. "top tier" is a generic meaning.

Top tier gas is a phony ripoff because they can charge extra $$ for it. My vehicals get the same milage out of any gas. If you need top tier just eat a few cans of Bush's beans and let it go lol!!!
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Everyone here is talking top tier gas, Does anyone here know what makes a gas top tier? All the gas coming down the pipeline to the individual terminals is the same, almost. When BP puts 50 thousand barrels into the pipe line most of the time it gets to the bp terminal. and sometimes it goes to the citgo terminal and so on. There is a minimum standard for gasoline set by the feds, and that is what most refiners meet, the minimum. There is a couple of refiners that do exceed the minimum standards set by the feds. What brings the gas up is the additives added to the gas at the terminal. I have seen a "top tier" advertised at a particuler branded station that is not "top tier" they use the lowest quality of fuel from a certian terminal that i would never ever buy from. When you go to a citgo station it may not be citgo gas or mobil stations my not sell mobil gas. Some station owners buy the cheapest priced gas from the open market. it is a buyer beware, if you find a gas that runs good stick with it. "top tier" is a generic meaning.
"The intention of the TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards is to create a winning situation for gasoline retailers, auto manufacturers and drivers. Currently, many gasoline retailers provide fuels with lower-quality additive packages that can build up deposits on fuel injectors and on intake valves. Others can build up deposits in combustion chambers and may lead to intake valve sticking. These lower levels of additives can have negative impacts on engine performance and vehicle responsiveness."

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