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Old 11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
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Fuel tanks not holding enough fuel?

When I had my truck on the road it seemed like I could only ever squeeze 7-7.5 gallons of fuel into and out of each tank. Would this have anything to do with the fuel pickup? Ive seen pics of those rubber boots messing things up with the pickup. I havent dropped the tanks yet but I will in the near future.
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Yes the bottom rubber strainer has probably fallen off. A chunk of fuel line clamped on the steel line will allow you to use the full capacity of your tanks. When installing the ruber fuel line cut it with a V in the loose end to prevent the line sucking to the bottom of the tank.
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Okay thanks. How much fuel should be in the tanks then? I think I am going to drop at least one tomorrow to see whats going on. How big is the opening for me to try and dig out the rubber boot?
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could be a 16, 18 or 19 gallons i think
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im purty sure itll b a 19 gallon tank.
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Maybe Ill just drop the first tank then at a half a tank now. The rear has a full tank in it.
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Ok after reading a little more on the problem I had another question.

What can I use as a filter on the bottom of the fuel pickup? I dont trust my tanks enough to not run a filter of some sort.

Also am I able to do any work needed by removing the bed instead of dropping the tanks?
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pull the bed its alot easier, plus you can work on other stuff and paint the frame. dont put a filter inside the tanks it will be a pain to change out. when you open up the tanks order a new lock ring set for each tank with a gasket. also search around for fuel fill vent mod and do that so you can fill your tanks faster.
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pull the bed its alot easier, plus you can work on other stuff and paint the frame. dont put a filter inside the tanks it will be a pain to change out. when you open up the tanks order a new lock ring set for each tank with a gasket. also search around for fuel fill vent mod and do that so you can fill your tanks faster.
Alright thanks for the info.
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If you try to drop a tank with 10 gallons of fuel in it, expect about 100 pounds when the bolts come loose.

Getting to the tank from above by removing the bed eliminates that problem.

Most years the tanks were either 17 or 19 gallons for both the front and rear tank.



If you get most of the fuel out, you will be able to look in the tank and see what is in there.
The plastic pieces in the tank from the broken pickup will probably be the worst thing in there and probably the only thing that could cause you grief when a chunk goes into the fuel line.

When you consider the lift pump flow rate, by the time you get to 1/2 tank all of the fuel in the tank has been trough the fuel filter many times.
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If you try to drop a tank with 10 gallons of fuel in it, expect about 100 pounds when the bolts come loose.

Getting to the tank from above by removing the bed eliminates that problem.

Most years the tanks were either 17 or 19 gallons for both the front and rear tank.



If you get most of the fuel out, you will be able to look in the tank and see what is in there.
The plastic pieces in the tank from the broken pickup will probably be the worst thing in there and probably the only thing that could cause you grief when a chunk goes into the fuel line.

When you consider the lift pump flow rate, by the time you get to 1/2 tank all of the fuel in the tank has been trough the fuel filter many times.
I was expecting the weight and thats not a problem but I dont want to go through the hassle of dropping the tank. Ill lift the bed one of these days and take a look and fix it all.
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What can I use as a filter on the bottom of the fuel pickup? I dont trust my tanks enough to not run a filter of some sort.
The stock "filter" that falls off is really barely a screen. Only keeps out birds and small animals that happen to fall into the tank! I added mesh filters to my pickups, got them at Napa.
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The filter at the end of the tube is a saran mesh. It resists passing water, keeping it in the tank. If you are locky it will stop the flow of fuel, saving your IP and injectors. It would be a good idea to put one back on. If you like running bare foot, have at it.
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The filter at the end of the tube is a saran mesh. It resists passing water, keeping it in the tank. If you are locky it will stop the flow of fuel, saving your IP and injectors. It would be a good idea to put one back on. If you like running bare foot, have at it.

How do I go about getting one of those filters? Would a fuel water separator installed Right after the tanks be a good idea instead? My "water in fuel" light is on so I am going to drain the tanks of water after I run them dry of fuel.
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Your truck should have the water seperator built into the fuel filter.
Have you tried draining the water seperator?

My thoughts on water left in the tank, the water seperator is a much better place for the water, that way you can drain it out and get rid of it.

Left in the tank you are more likely to have algae growth in the tank which is worse than water.
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