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Old 11-03-2009, 08:00 PM
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How does this sound for exhaust (looking for performance and sound)

I have a 99 F-150 5.4L. I scored 2 14" Magnaflow 2.5" mufflers for free. After reading quite a few threads on lowend, exhaust velocities, etc, I think I am only going to use one of them. I was thinking of replacing all 4 cats, with 2 high flows, and a single 14" Magnaflow dumped before the axle. I think this will be better performance wise than running true duals with 2.5" pipe, not too mention much cheaper. My only concern is I am not sure what it will sound like.

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Ok, these mufflers would be great for performance and sound. Don't bother with replacing the cats. The stock ones are already high flows, and so long as you keep your engine properly tuned, they will last. With dumping under the bed, it should be plenty loud even with all the stock cats in place. You can always change stuff later if it is too quiet.
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Ok, these mufflers would be great for performance and sound. Don't bother with replacing the cats. The stock ones are already high flows, and so long as you keep your engine properly tuned, they will last. With dumping under the bed, it should be plenty loud even with all the stock cats in place. You can always change stuff later if it is too quiet.


I didnt know the stock were high flows. Do you know of any documentation to support that? Just curious.

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It will be quiet with 4 cats and a muffler and sound bad with no tailpipe.My buddy has a 06 and put on a few different mufflers without a tailpipe and it was quiet.It really didn't sound much different than stock.Ditch the muffler and run a 3 in tailpipe.
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I didnt know the stock were high flows. Do you know of any documentation to support that? Just curious.

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The question is, are the aftermarkets you are looking at high flows? High flow Aftermarkets are very expensive. The stock cats use a 400 cpi ceramic honeycomb. Most aftermarket converters regardless of brand name us the exact same cell density and also has the same cross section. If you replace a 400 cpi with another 400 cpi, you gain no flow unless the old ones were plugged.

Now if you replace the stock cats with 300 cpi ceramics, now you are talking. The real world gains are still minimal, but at least the potential is there, and when combined with headers, a good catback, and a tuner and intake, they can help you get the most out of them. They are also great with forced induction. You can also get 200 cpi metallic catalysts. Unfortunately, while the metallic has a freer flowing substrate, the metal ones are only available is small round bodies, which struggle to keep up with demand on a truck. The 300 cpi ceramic has a greater cross section and is also more efficient.

Real high flow cats are expensive because the lower density means less surface area. The only way they can compensate is to increase the precious metal content (platinum, palladium, rhodium), which causes the price to skyrocket. As with anything there are always tradeoffs, in the case of metal cats, the tradeoff is cost and recyclability.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:23 AM
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Thank you for the explanation. I typically get the Magnaflow or Catco highflows. I have no idea how these are in comparison to the stock ones.
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Yeah, The EPA cracked down on converter manufacturers putting the words "high flow" on the box unless they are actually proven to be freer flowing than the stock converters. This was partly because people will swap out the excellent OEM converters for substandard aftermarket converters in an effort to improve performance when there wasn't anything wrong with the original.
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