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Old 11-02-2009, 01:34 PM
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Wheel Bearing Cross Reference?

Hi folks,
Well, I actually made some progress on my R&P install this weekend. In that I finally was able to take the front end apart to the point where I can start installing the new components. Yippee!
I would like to get new wheel bearings. The truck is a 56 with a CPP disc conversion kit for 5x5.5 pattern.
I called CPP, they said they would have to order the bearings and if I wanted I could just get them at a local parts house. I was given the following two part numbers: A2 and A13.
Seemed odd to me, I am not used to bearings being referred to in that manner. I asked for make and model and the guy said a parts place could use a cross-reference chart to figure it out. I also need the seal that presses into the backside of the rotor, but got no info on that.
A quick Google search shows that the A2 and A13 do look similar to the bearings I have.






Did I get the straight scoop? If I go to Auto Zone, will these two numbers be sufficient?
Maybe this is all pretty standard stuff, but it is nothing like German cars, so a bit new to me.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:03 PM
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The basic 5 x 5.5 kit sold by mid-fifty uses 1973-1993 f-150 rotors and 1971-1976 GM calipers (according to page 140 of their catalog). If CPP is selling the same kit the f-150 bearings and seal are probably what you need. Take a quick trip to the parts store and check it out. Hope this helps.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:37 PM
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The basic 5 x 5.5 kit sold by mid-fifty uses 1973-1993 f-150 rotors and 1971-1976 GM calipers (according to page 140 of their catalog). If CPP is selling the same kit the f-150 bearings and seal are probably what you need. Take a quick trip to the parts store and check it out. Hope this helps.
At least on their web-catalog, this info does not show up (at least I cannot see it).
But I do have a paper catalog at home, I will look when I get home.

Thanks very much, that should help.

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Old 11-02-2009, 05:32 PM
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A2 and A13 are kina bearings kits, inner and outer, they are a sets of cone and cup together, A2 is like LM 114949 cone and LM 115100 cup (made up numbers) so you will need two of each to do both sides. Somewhat industry standard numbers. The old seal might have a number on it that the gray haired guy can cross-reference.
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There will be a number on the bearings and the races if you clean them off. Your local NAPA (or who ever) will be able to find their brand with a cross reference table - the seal too

Be absolutely certain to install new races with the new bearings!
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A2 and A13 are good numbers IF you go to a GOOD parts store. those are the general numbers (not application) for front wheel bearings (bca uses it). if you need an application for the bearings A2= '57-'67 f100 2wd outer, A13= '75-'94 f100 2wd inner or cars A2= '55-'69 outer full size drum, A13= '70-'73 inner full size. i think CR bearing numbers start with a BR (BR2, BR13).
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Thanks for the help everyone.

My most local parts store is Auto Zone. I think they still speak English over there, so I'll go and see what I can get accomplished.

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bearing seals: PN 4148 But what do I know?
Thanks. That agrees with the instructions for the brake kit from CPP. I thought I posted this yesterday but now don't see it.

AX and others pointed out these instructions to me a while back. I should have looked here first.

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Where do you get the bearing spacers from ? Part #'s
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:14 AM
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Where do you get the bearing spacers from ? Part #'s
The kit, which came from CPP, was on the truck when I bought it.

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My most local parts store is Auto Zone.
Forget Auto-Zone, take a trip over the hill and go here:

ENGLER BROTHERS AUTO PARTS on Pico Blvd in Santa Monica.

The best dang autoparts store in SoCal for older vehicles.
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DOAZ1201A .. Inner Wheel Bearing: LM68149

DOAZ1202A .. Inner Wheel Bearing Race: LM68110

DOAZ1216A .. Outer Wheel Bearing: LM12749

DOAZ1217A .. Outer Wheel Bearing Race: LM12710

Fits: 1973/79 F100/150 2WD // 1980/83 F100 with 5 lug, 4.50" 15" wheels ONLY / Myriad 1970/79 Passenger Cars.

That disc brake parts list in post # is misleading!

There is no such thing as 1973/93 F100/150 rotors. No F100's after 1983. There are two different sized front brakes for 1980/83 F100's.

Some have 5 lug 5.50" wheels, some have 5 lug x 4.50" wheels. The rotors & bearings do not interchange.

The rotors used on 1980 and later F150 2WD's are not the same as 1973/79. Neither are the wheel bearings.
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Forget Auto-Zone, take a trip over the hill and go here:

ENGLER BROTHERS AUTO PARTS on Pico Blvd in Santa Monica.

The best dang autoparts store in SoCal for older vehicles.
Excellent!

Engler Brothers? I've seen that place. It's near a Mexican restaurant I used to go to.

Thanks for the tip.

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