Questions on a 1969 F-250

[JirehCustoms]

I'm looking at a 1969 F-250. I know that for most of it's life it was a camper truck. I don't know if it was a factory "Camper Special" How do I find out if it was a factory Camper Special? How many of those were built and what is the market for those right now? I know that it has 3 fuel tanks, not all factory. Does that detract from the value? It also has an "RV" cam for low end torque. Does that also detract from value? It has just over 100k miles. It looks like it needs a good paint with a little body work, new carpet and tires to be restored. Motor and trans have less than 18,000 miles since rebuild. What is the market value for a restored driver like this?

[jowilker]

JC, Ol Ford trucks don't have much collector value, there are to many of them available today.

Bill aka ND, can tell you exactly, but the Camper Special was a add on order option with items that would aid camping. I think all of those items could be ordered without it being a package. Some years CS was available on F100s too.

There was the construction package, ranch package, with most of the camper package being the same.

The heavy duty Camper Special may actually de-value a truck because it will cost more to run it over a half ton.

Sounds to me like you have a nice looking work horse with plenty of life left, but it aint no saddle show horse. Draft horses don't bring the same as show horses. IMHO




John

[JirehCustoms]

Originally Posted by jowilker

JC, Ol Ford trucks don't have much collector value, there are to many of them available today.

Bill aka ND, can tell you exactly, but the Camper Special was a add on order option with items that would aid camping. I think all of those items could be ordered without it being a package. Some years CS was available on F100s too.

There was the construction package, ranch package, with most of the camper package being the same.

The heavy duty Camper Special may actually de-value a truck because it will cost more to run it over a half ton.

Sounds to me like you have a nice looking work horse with plenty of life left, but it aint no saddle show horse. Draft horses don't bring the same as show horses. IMHO




John

Thanks for the info John

[NumberDummy]

Originally Posted by JirehCustoms

I'm looking at a 1969 F-250. I know that for most of it's life it was a camper truck. I don't know if it was a factory "Camper Special" How do I find out if it was a factory Camper Special? How many of those were built and what is the market for those right now? I know that it has 3 fuel tanks, not all factory. Does that detract from the value? It also has an "RV" cam for low end torque. Does that also detract from value? It has just over 100k miles. It looks like it needs a good paint with a little body work, new carpet and tires to be restored. Motor and trans have less than 18,000 miles since rebuild. What is the market value for a restored driver like this?

1967/72 F100/250 Camper Specials have unique badging (nameplates).

If the CamperSpecial nameplates are missing, there is no way to tell from the VIN, or any codes on the Warranty Plate if it's a Camper Special...or not.

However, all Camper Specials came with a pigtailed wire harness that was used for the Camper's lights. Ford put this harness into the glove boxes of all Camper Specials at final assembly.

This harness plugged into a short wire harness/plug that was part of the taillamp harness.

If the taillamp harness has a separate plug for this harness to plug into...it is a Camper Special. The non Camper Specials did not have this feature.

1967/72 F100/250 8' Styleside Camper Special package included: 70 amp hour battery, ammeter and oil pressure gauges, extra-cooling radiator, dual brite 6" x 10" Western type mirrors, Camper wiring harness, Camper Special nameplates.

1969/72 F100/250 8' Styleside Contractors Special package included: rear step bumper, lockable contractors boxes on both sides (mounted atop the bed sides), dual brite long arm Western mirrors, Contractors Special namplates.

1969/72 F100/250 8' Styleside Farm & Ranch Special package included: front & nine inch high side cargo boards painted body color, dual brite Western Swing-Lok mirrors, rear step bumper, Farm & Ranch Special emblems.

How many of these trucks were assembled? Ford has no info any longer, the only way to find out is contact martiauto.com and pay a fee to get this info.

In the late 1980's, Ford was planning on throwing all the records that pertained to 1967/79 cars & trucks into the TRASH!

Kevin Marti, a Mustang nut from Phoenix AZ found out about this, and got ALL of it. So...the only way to find out...is to get what is known as a Marti Report.
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What are these trucks worth? Whatever the traffic will bear.

Considering the state of the economy at this time, not too many ppl are buying old rolling piles of misery, or much of anything else.

The collector market is either flat as a board, or is down on many collectibles, not just vehicles.

GM & Chrysler both went bankrupt, ppl are losing their homes and their jobs, credit is tight, banks are failing.

This is the worst Recession (economic downturn) since The Great Depression.

[jowilker]

Bill I am amazed in what you post sometimes. The casual reader could think those "included" were the packages. Step bumpers, mirrors, gauges, batteries, were available for all trucks, as were the bed tool boxes. and about every thing else.

I special ordered a car in 71. The salesman gave me the package list and I ordered the car just like I wanted, whether it was a package item or not.



John

[BradyCouchman]

the items you asked if they detract form value, they do if you dont want them but if you do want them then they help the value of the truck. these trucks range in value so much from coast to coast, here in So Cal trucks go for $1000 to $2000 running go down to alabama and you could buy the truck for $800 or less. look around at what else trucks in that area are selling for and go from there. watch out for rusted out trucks!

[DLP Performance]

A good paint job will cost well over $2000 if it's done right. If you buy the truck for $1-2k & just have it painted & a set of good tires put on you'll have $4-5k in it. There is a possibility you could simply get a return on investment at best. That's just my opinion. It all depends on who wants it, how much they have to spend & what they're willing to pay. If you are buying the truck to keep it for yourself, it's up to you. The truck should be inspected thoroughly before making any offers.

[NumberDummy]

Originally Posted by jowilker

Bill I am amazed in what you post sometimes. The casual reader could think those "included" were the packages. Step bumpers, mirrors, gauges, batteries, were available for all trucks, as were the bed tool boxes. and about every thing else.John

Yes, all these parts were available separately for non Farm/Ranch, Contractors and Camper Specials (except the Camper wiring harness-if you lost it, you were SOL, because it could not be bought at the parts counter).

The reason I listed all of this jazz was...because the OP wanted to know how to ID a Camper Special.

Since there is no way to ID it with the VIN and Warranty Plate codes, I typed what came in the package.

Since you mentioned the Farm/Ranch and Contractors Specials, I added that info as well.

How many ppl have this info? How many ppl would like to know this info? Since I have it, I pass it along.

If the casual readers do not understand...now all they gotta do is read this post.

btw: Look up the value of draft horses...see what they bring. You may be surprised that these horses will command a pretty penny...as much or more than "show horses."

One of my great uncles was the first to bring Norman-Percheron horses into the US, another was the first to bring Arabian horses into the US.