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Old 10-28-2009, 01:48 AM
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64 rear brake upgrade.

I remeber a while back reading about a bolt on swap for rear brakes on a 64 F100.

I seem to belive that there was a certain year(s) truck that you could yank the backing plates and drums off of and get a larger rear brake without changing your wheel spacing.

Does anyone know what I am talking about and if so how much larger are we talking.

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Some late '70s 4wds had something like 11x3 rear brakes & maybe all the '80 & up. Not really sure. I don't know if it'd be a noticeable improvement, though.
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I remeber a while back reading about a bolt on swap for rear brakes on a 64 F100.

I seem to belive that there was a certain year(s) truck that you could yank the backing plates and drums off of and get a larger rear brake without changing your wheel spacing.

Does anyone know what I am talking about and if so how much larger are we talking.

Thanks.
1948/52 F1's and 1953/67 F100's have 11" x 1 3/4" rear brakes. The front brakes are 11" x 2"

1968/79 F100's have 11 x 2 1/4" rear brakes, as do 1975/79 (thru 1999) F150's. 1968/72 F100: The front brakes are 11" X 3"

No F100 4WD came with 3" rear brakes, ditto for 1975/99 F150 4WD's. No F100 4WD's after 1976.

4WD's use the same rear brakes as 2WD's.
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I stand corrected. NumberDummy should know, since he's a retired Ford parts pro. I've read his posts, he's no fool when it comes to Ford parts!!!
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So they are wider not larger in diamater.. Does anyone know if the brake backing plate was dished in to allow the same length of wheel stud and create the same wheel spacing.
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Can I give my take on it? Use it if you can, if not, don't get choked up about it.

Rear Brake upgrade for pre 68 Ford 9" rears.

by John Wilkerson 6/04

I just completed this upgrade on my 66 F100, I had already done the disc brakes for the front. My rear drums are now size correct with the power disc setup again.

First; Ford increased the size of the rear brakes by 1/2" in 1968. Pre 73 9" rears are the same width from 57 to 72, and were increased in width in 73 to track the front. Note years that parts can be used.

Parts needed:
1- axles from a 68-72 Ford truck 9" The wheel bearing does not set as deep on the axle, even though it is the same length. It does not extent as deep into the center chunk.
2- backing plates, shoes, and drums for 68-85 Ford truck 9"

Must do:
1- existing hand brake cable must be removed at backing plate and retained, lengths can be different.
2- backing plate has to be swapped. Outer rim lip is shallower where it goes into the drum.
3- Might be a good time to replace wheel cylinders, and brake lines. Lines tent to break before unscrewing.

General work:
Remove wheel, drum, and all brake parts, release hand or park brake cable, brake line, pull axle, and backing plate.

Install new backing plate, wheel cylinder, brake lines, reconnect parking brake cable, new shoes and parts, insert axle, (a good time for new axle seals) new drums and adjust brakes, fill master cylinder and bleed brake lines.



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ok so I need a set of backing plates form a 73-79 F100 or 150. What are the axles from a 68-72 for? That would push the drive flange out and increase my rear wheel spacing. This is somthing I would like to avoid. Is the purpose of setting the wheels out for clearing the larger rear drums?
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2) B7TZ4234A .. 9" Axle Shaft-28 splines / 29 11/16" long from splined end to inside of flange.

Fits: 1957/67 F100.
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2) C8TZ4234A .. 9" Axle Shaft-28 splines / 29 15/16" long from splined end to inside of flange.

Fits: 1968/72 F100.
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Why mess with 1973 and later parts...IMO, stick with 1968/72 parts.

CAVEAT EMPTOR: Let the buyer beware.

Ford changed the backing plate bolt sizes on some 1977/79 F100/150's from 3/8" to 1/2"

This was a running change, so there is no way to know by a serial number or production date change what the bolt sizes are.

The only way to find out...is to pull the drum and take a look-see.

This means these 1/2" bolt backing plates will not fit a 1957/76 F100/150 properly, because the bolt holes are larger.
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I'll go with the 68-72 setup.
I will need the axle shaft from the donor 9"?
Would the axle or backer plate from a 9" out of a 71 LTD work?
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I'll go with the 68-72 setup.
I will need the axle shaft from the donor 9"?
Would the axle or backer plate from a 9" out of a 71 LTD work?
The LTD backing plates are different part numbers than what 1968/72 F100's used....so I dunno whether they will work...or not.

1971 LTD: There are three different types of backing plates.

One type was used with the 9" rear end, another with the 8.7 WER integral rear end, one type was used on 9" P/C's and Taxi-Cabs.
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