im trying to figure out how i can lift the front of my 1990 f250 without having to go out and buy a lift. i have not intentions of putting it on the road, itll be strictly for the mud. i was wondering how much work it would be or if anyone has put rear leafs in the front.
What size tires do you want to fit..?
Are you planning on spending any money at all or is this one of those "16 year old has an itch for huge truck but doesn't want to spend anything" kind of momments?'
Because honestly, I think that if you're here looking for a way to lift a truck without spending money.. well you're out of luck. Most everyone who gives advise lifts trucks with some money into them to make sure they won't break on the trail.
Seeing that you want to put rear leafs on the front suggests to me that you want to spend very little, if any, money on this truck.
To answer your question:
If they fit, sure why the hell not? Try it out. I'll bet you won't be happy with the results though. It will be a very painful ride.
One big tip though:
Do not put blocks on the front axle and do not stack blocks.
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im 18 and im not a cheap ass, i just got done buyin 2 dana 60 front ends, 3 460s 2 zf trannys and 2 3/4 ton tranfer cases. but i dont want to go out and buy 400 dollar lift springs when i can fab up a set of rear springs for relatively cheap. im running 40 inch mickey thompsons which i also have sitting in my shop on 15x10 cragar rims.
Spring dimensions are probably the most critical thing here. I am all for trying new things, but the rate and progession might be s little on the stiff side. This means less than desirable performance. Heak 400 dollars for front springs sounds pretty cheap to me.
Anyway, I have noticed that many rear leafs do not have the center bolt in the middle of the spring. This means that the axle will no longer be in the correct place. This can be both good and bad depending upon the application. Moving the center bolt too far one direction or another will not work on a TTB axle. Perhaps one of those Dana 60's will be going under the truck, so in this case, you should be considerang a shackle reversal kit, and not mess around with crazy springs. While the idea is fairly sound, it might be a little bit too much and not require as much thought. 40 inch tires can clear a solid axle truck with minimal lift and minimal expense.
The advantage is performance. Even a mud truck deserves a decent ride and a set of springs that can work well.
IM not too sure where a mud truck can t be streetable, or if there is a compromise, because there really does not have to be any compromises with only a 40 inch tire.
My point is, that a rear spering will still cost money, and it will be a shot in the dark. This will require many attempts to achieve a vehicle with the proper heigth as well as driving performance. After all is said and done, the reward may not be worth the investment, when a spring designed specifically for the application can work with far better results.
Who knows though? Perhaps you are on to something that no one else has ever though of.
Lets us know how this works out.
i do plan on putting the dana 60 under it, and its not going not be street legal because i dont need it to be. i have a truck a trailer to haul it with. plus i plan on gutting the interior and getting rid of anything not needed. and i can get the rear springs for free because we own a junk yard so i have them at my disposal.
Heak 400 dollars for front springs sounds pretty cheap to me.
To a guy who buys $800 leaf springs.
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The advantage is performance. Even a mud truck deserves a decent ride and a set of springs that can work well.
Actually I think that I prefer my mud truck to have a better suspension, more bumps that break your back then on a paved surface.
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im 18 and im not a cheap ass, ----- im running 40 inch mickey thompsons
Seems a little bit like it. No offence or anything, but I think you would be much happier buying lift springs. And with 40's, you should probably swap one of those D60's in and then talk about lifting.
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i do plan on putting the dana 60 under it, and its not going not be street legal because i dont need it to be. i have a truck a trailer to haul it with. plus i plan on gutting the interior and getting rid of anything not needed.
Well, why wouldn't it be street legal? I can see the little things like plates or something keeping it from being legal on the street. But for the most part, if its SAFE enough to wheel, then its probably SAFE enough to drive.
Don't think that you should be fine off-roading with something un-safe for the road. You could end up injuring somebody, or just being stranded on a trail cause you lost an axle.
__________________ 1988 Ford F-350 460ci EFI
37" Super Swampers - Warn Winch
if u read my post above yours i explain that i AM putting one of those dana 60s in and im from canada and lift springs are expensive as hell, i cant afford them. all those parts i bought. i got for free. take what i want and sell the rest of the truck. brand new lift springs on the other hand will wipe out my bank account. i have 2 trucks i drive on the road and both have boughten lifts im not gunna go buy a lift for something im gunna beat the crap out of. i even explained why it wasnt going to be road legal aswell. its got an old dented box on it and would need alot of body work to pass mvi. i have no need to put it on the road so im not going to. im a fabricator so if i can make something work for free im going to be more inclined to take that route rather than wipe out my bank account and not have money to pay for gas and insurance.
Ya you can do what you said there ,but you might have to use the top front leaf for the right length and center pin line up for it to sit in your wheel well correctly .
if u read my post above yours i explain that i AM putting one of those dana 60s
If you read my post you would see that I QUOTED YOU SAYING THAT. Now if you would have read it, instead of being stupid, you would have noticed I suggested SWAPPING THE AXLE BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT SHOVING REAR SPRINGS ON IT.
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in and im from canada and lift springs are expensive as hell,
You said $400, if your hurting so much to pay for gas and insurance maybe you should wait a little while. Or, save up. OR, since the body doesn't matter, just cut the damn fenders.
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i cant afford them. all those parts i bought. i got for free.
It wouldn't really be "buying" the parts if you got them for free.
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brand new lift springs on the other hand will wipe out my bank account.
So buy used ones?
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i even explained why it wasnt going to be road legal aswell. its got an old dented box on it and would need alot of body work to pass mvi.
You didn't say that in ANY of the posts in your thread. You just said
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and its not going not be street legal because i dont need it to be.
Thanks for the mature reply.
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37" Super Swampers - Warn Winch
with a D-60 under it, you are going to gain 2 inches of lift with the stock springs. i would use the stock springs and do a shackle flip and call it a day.
putting rear springs up front will be about the same as welding the axle to the frame.
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If you own a junkyard then cant you find some kind of front springs that will lift it and not be so stiff maybe some kind vehicle with spring under axle suspension and if they are too tall then tune the springs where you need them or use your top leafs and remove the rest and replace them with leafs from the spring under leafs
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