Cal. Smog Diagram Needed for 460
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I was reading your other post, with the other vacum diagram, and by the calibration numbers, that one seems to be for a 79 460 on light duty trucks, yours is a 78 F150 right, with a swapped in 460?
If you can give me more information, I can try to get you the right vacum schematic, I have copies of some of the old Mitchell shop manuals, which is where I think these diagrams came from. . .
If you can give me more information, I can try to get you the right vacum schematic, I have copies of some of the old Mitchell shop manuals, which is where I think these diagrams came from. . .
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What truck do you have, F150, 250, or 350? And is it for a California truck or a Federal (49-state) truck?
Any chance that the original valve covers are still there, with the plastic calibration tag on them? If you had the engine calibration number, that would be a big help.
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I was reading your other post, with the other vacum diagram, and by the calibration numbers, that one seems to be for a 79 460 on light duty trucks, yours is a 78 F150 right, with a swapped in 460?
If you can give me more information, I can try to get you the right vacum schematic, I have copies of some of the old Mitchell shop manuals, which is where I think these diagrams came from. . .
If you can give me more information, I can try to get you the right vacum schematic, I have copies of some of the old Mitchell shop manuals, which is where I think these diagrams came from. . .
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- PVC Valve
- Thermostatic Air Cleaner
- Evaporative Emission Control (charcoal canister)
- EGR Valve
I do have a vacum diagriam, it's kind of hard to read, but if you PM me, I can scan it and email it to you.
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I am not an expert but I will venture a guess that your 460s emissions stuff will have to comply with the more stringent smog equipment that the half tons usually had. If you do it correctly and are lucky, the smog guys will never know you put a 460 in, and thus wont make you go to a referee. ONe time a crafty smog tech sorta erased the GVW on the door jamb to make it fly according to what he has to look for.
If your vacuum lines look eXactly like what is shown and everything is easy to follow, chances are the smog guy wont look twice at anything else. Just make sure your gas caps are of the non locking variety and that if you only have one fuel tank, your hoses are tight and not split. aside from having a well tuned motor, you should be gravy.
By the way, Autozone.com has the vacuum diagrams for your own convienience.
Once again...
If your vacuum lines look eXactly like what is shown and everything is easy to follow, chances are the smog guy wont look twice at anything else. Just make sure your gas caps are of the non locking variety and that if you only have one fuel tank, your hoses are tight and not split. aside from having a well tuned motor, you should be gravy.
By the way, Autozone.com has the vacuum diagrams for your own convienience.
Once again...
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Yes, I have a 78 F150 that came with a 351 I believe but now has a 460 swapped into it. I am assuming that I will have to comply with a 78 F250 460 smog setup in order to get a referee to approve it. I believe the diagram I have is correct, just too small to read well but I welcome all information.
- PCV = PCV valve
- TAC = Thermostatic Air Cleaner (yes they do have a hot air riser)
- AIS = Air Injection System (air pump)
- EVAP = Evaporative Emission Control (charcoal canister)
- OC = Catalytic Converter
- EGR = Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR Valve)
- SPK = Spark Control
- EGR-BPS = EGR Back-Pressure Sensor
- VTK = Vacuum Throttle Kicker
In case you're interested, your factory calibration number for a F150-250, 460 V8, Auto Trans, with California Emissions, should be: 8-66U RO.
Again, I do have a vacuum diagram, but it's very hard to read, PM me and I can email it to you.
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Chad (jermafenser): 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog =
1978/79 460 F150/350 & Econoline = EGR: Illustration Section: 94.1 / Page 33.
Parts and hose routings are shown.
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There is no truck parts catalog pic of a 460 T/E system (smog pump) parts/hose routing.
But....there is one in the 1973/79 Passenger Car Parts Catalog:
1978 LTD 460: Illustration Section 94 / Page 8. This pic will most likely will be the same as 1978/79 F150/350 460.
Does anyone have this catalog on a CD that they can scan and post this illustration?
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Both these catalogs (and more) are available on CD's from hipoparts.com for about 25 bucks each.
Fellow members: If y'all say 'who needs this car parts catalog?' Let me be the first to inform y'all that this is where BRONCO parts are listed.
1966/72 Bronco parts (1965/72 Passenger Car Parts Catalog) & 1973/79 Bronco parts are in the CAR parts catalogs! Not listed in the truck parts catalogs...until 1980.
1978/79 460 F150/350 & Econoline = EGR: Illustration Section: 94.1 / Page 33.
Parts and hose routings are shown.
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There is no truck parts catalog pic of a 460 T/E system (smog pump) parts/hose routing.
But....there is one in the 1973/79 Passenger Car Parts Catalog:
1978 LTD 460: Illustration Section 94 / Page 8. This pic will most likely will be the same as 1978/79 F150/350 460.
Does anyone have this catalog on a CD that they can scan and post this illustration?
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Both these catalogs (and more) are available on CD's from hipoparts.com for about 25 bucks each.
Fellow members: If y'all say 'who needs this car parts catalog?' Let me be the first to inform y'all that this is where BRONCO parts are listed.
1966/72 Bronco parts (1965/72 Passenger Car Parts Catalog) & 1973/79 Bronco parts are in the CAR parts catalogs! Not listed in the truck parts catalogs...until 1980.
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Yup, cats were mandatory in California, my truck(s) have them.
Now for the air pump tubes on a 460, the tubes were routed to holes in the back of the cylinder heads. Very hard to get to with the engine in the truck. If your engine does not have them, or if your heads don't have the holes to accept the air tubes, you may have an issue.
Got your PM, I'll send you the vacuum diagram tonight, when I get home.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, I have a 78 F150 that came with a 351 I believe but now has a 460 swapped into it. I am assuming that I will have to comply with a 78 F250 460 smog setup in order to get a referee to approve it. I believe the diagram I have is correct, just too small to read well but I welcome all information.
Your truck has to comply with a 460 in an F150, not an F250. This means you will need a cat.
You could order a 460 in 1973/76 F100's, 1975/79 F150's, but...
The problem you may encounter is: You could not get a 460 engine in a new 1978/79 F150 in CA....it was not available.
There is no longer any waiver if the parts are obsolete like there once was.
CA says: Fix it...or park it. Cuz if ALL the smog jazz isn't on there...as original...and in working order, the vehicle cannot be registered.
TAC: There is a pre-heat choke tube that fits into the intake manifold...the puppy usually rusts out > >
C8VY9C869A / Thermostatic Choke Heater Tube / 4 1/2" formed length, w/formed tube & square flange on one end / Obsolete
SAHARA MOTORS in Delta UT has ONE = 435-864-4456.
CAIN FORD in Cornelia GA has ONE = 706-778-2121.
PEROGIE ENTERPRISES in Highstown NJ has ONE = 609-448-1684.
No other Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
This tube can be found in 1968/78 429/460 passenger cars, 1973/79 F100/350 460 & 1975/79 Econoline 460.
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