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Any early 99 owners running ELC antifreeze?

In light of this LINK I'm wondering if I should run ELC in my early bird. If any early 99 owners are running ELC please speak up, especially if you've had any issues with it.
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Subscribing.....I wasn't aware that there was an issue with converting to the ELC coolant in any year 7.3....I have a LATE '99 and made the switch almost 2 years ago during a water pump change.
 
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Subscribing.....I wasn't aware that there was an issue with converting to the ELC coolant in any year 7.3....I have a LATE '99 and made the switch almost 2 years ago during a water pump change.
I wasn't either, Robin posted the link in another thread and got me wondering.
 
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I have and so far no issues. Howeve I have tested it about every 20,000 mi with test strips. I do change it (ELC) every 100,000 mi. tho. In fact I am planning to change it this weekend again and will be using Detroit Disel , POWERCOOL Plus. ELC which eliminates the need for supplamental additives. . I "inherited" the coolant and after speaking with a few mechanics they said go for it in the Ford.
In the past I used Shell Rotella ELC (2X). Truck still is running 326,700 mi.

BTW my engine was built 2/19/98

PS. there is a few of opinions which advise AGAINST using an ELC. in the 7.3. However i form my own opinions.
 
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Originally Posted by hucka1a
In light of this LINK I'm wondering if I should run ELC in my early bird. If any early 99 owners are running ELC please speak up, especially if you've had any issues with it.
Thanks
Huck,

Thanks for starting this thread. Reps to you. I was about to do it myself.

Like I posted in the other thread I have 8k on ELC and no problems I have noticed, but it is rather difficult to keep an eye on the injector cups. I will, however, be keeping an eye and nose on the de-gas bottle for any signs of diesel fuel.

The credit for the link I posted must go to Stewart and Gooch.
 
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not to high jack but my has gold antifreeze form the dealer it needs mabey a pint to fill it up should i add water or more of the gold?
 
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I have and so far no issues. Howeve I have tested it about every 20,000 mi with test strips. I do change it (ELC) every 100,000 mi. tho. In fact I am planning to change it this weekend again and will be using Detroit Disel , POWERCOOL Plus. ELC which eliminates the need for supplamental additives. . I "inherited" the coolant and after speaking with a few mechanics they said go for it in the Ford.
In the past I used Shell Rotella ELC (2X). Truck still is running 326,700 mi.

BTW my engine was built 2/19/98

PS. there is a few of opinions which advise AGAINST using an ELC. in the 7.3. However i form my own opinions.
What kind of results do you see at the 20k test intervals?
 
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In light of this LINK I'm wondering if I should run ELC in my early bird. If any early 99 owners are running ELC please speak up, especially if you've had any issues with it.
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I have read more than a few articles saying the same. and after talking with my local IH garage.

I have choosen to stick with a conventional coolant meeting ASTM D4985 with SCA . just my 2 cents.
 
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It sure does read like the ELC should work well in almost anything....

I was even thinking of flushing the DexCool out of my little Chevy (2.2 Ecotec, alum block) and using it in that. I used the link on the Shell Rotella site to ask them and they said it was fine as long as it was flushed.
 
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If you just flush it well I doubt you'd have any problems. There are several folks here running ELC in their early birds with no problems.
 
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Thanks Robin.

I know the last time I contacted Gooch, he said the info in that cut and paste I posted in the link was still current, but he did note that guys with E99's have still done the switch, and only long term analysis will determine just how MUCH things are affected.

Stewart
 
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Originally Posted by hucka1a
What kind of results do you see at the 20k test intervals?
I use Detroit diesel Power trac test strips . They test 3 ways. I've always tested from Ideal to OK. (However I just went out and tested . According to strip I need to change. I do have over 100,000 mi on coolant )
 
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Originally Posted by OTTOMATIC
I use Detroit diesel Power trac test strips . They test 3 ways. I've always tested from Ideal to OK. (However I just went out and tested . According to strip I need to change. I do have over 100,000 mi on coolant )

Hey Otto!! How's the LBZ treating you?? Since you made special mention of it that day we met up back in PC, you should feel this thing now! Just put big hybrid injectors in it last month -- it's a beast now!!

To the original subject, are the strips you're using for ELC?? I'm wondering why you're "only" getting 100k out of ELC that's supposed to last 300k at least.
 
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Originally Posted by Izzy351

Hey Otto!! How's the LBZ treating you?? Since you made special mention of it that day we met up back in PC, you should feel this thing now! Just put big hybrid injectors in it last month -- it's a beast now!!

To the original subject, are the strips you're using for ELC?? I'm wondering why you're "only" getting 100k out of ELC that's supposed to last 300k at least.
LBZ +PPE= 585hp 1000Lbs torque. Tranny won't hold up thou. LBZ rides like $heet. Interior noise unbearable. Fast as I want to go. Probably give you a GOOD run.
I prefer driving the Ford. I need injectors . Still have your old????

On the COOLANT. I just change it out at 100,000 instead of adding more additive. A while back a UOA showed a possible coolant leak. After I changed it (coolant) next UOA showed none
 
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Wow!! I'll bet it would! Is that 585 at the rear wheels or flywheel?? I'm quite sure I'm at 500+ at the FW, hopefully holding in the low 400s at the wheels.
 


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