and those that lost boost. Could you feel a loss of power after install or just a small drop in boost numbers? I want to cure the surge but a $400 housing is steep. I've even read that some WW users still experince surge which makes me want to save for the ported housing. Thoughts, opinions?

 

No surge here. I tow very heavy 75% of the time and I never see surge.. I lost boost but couldn't notice, unless I'm watching my boost gauge.

I think the ATS is a waste of $$$ IMHO.

 

I didn't loose any power and it cured my surge.

You can always go with the 1.0 exhaust housing and no WW... or WW and 1.0 housing... Clay from Riffraffdiesel and help you out. sales@riffraffdiesel.com

 

Cured the surge on mine and I was glad.Turbo sure sounds good now.I did not see much loss but that was before I had T.WILDMAN TUNES.The wheel really works great with a chip

 

Doesn't seem like I've lost any boost and my surge has been cured since I installed it. My turbo whistle is louder and more pronounced and I love it!

 

I believe I still have surge at real hard pedal use. But I also know that I am not the norm here, so I would still suggest the $55.00 wicked wheel ( Rons Turbo ) before you go out and spend the $500.00 for the new housing.

I never noticed any loss or gain with the wicked wheel install, just got to hear her sing a little more.

 

I might have lost 1-2 psi, but if you think about what's happening, your exchanging a wheel that's stalling at the top end for one that doesn't, even though the peak boost is a hair lower. I think it's a wash, really. That said, I'm now running the van turbo (1.15 a/r exh housing) with stock wheel & ported comp housing. I really like how it's performing. With stock injectors I was able to get about 29-30psi out of it. Now, I'm getting about 33-35, and absolutely no surge whatsoever.

 

Thanks guys. Joe, what you said makes sense. When the stock wheel is fluttering arond making all that racket, I'm losing power anyway, which I felt. So really, what's the difference?

Damn, if my turbo got any louder I think I'd wet myself. It's already super loud (and yes I checked that the current wheel is stock ).

 

Bring a change of underwear and make sure you have a towel on your seat...

 

No kidding... When I put my WW in and took it out for test run, I was grinning from ear-to-ear...

FYI, the ported housing with stock wheel has more whistle than stock, but it's not as loud as the WW. It is however more pronounced throughout more of the turbo's RPM range. The WW is kind of "peaky" with its whistle where the ported housing with stock wheel is more consistent. The ported housing with WW is just sick. I never even tried it, but some that have changed the wheel back to stock because it's too much.

 

I have a wicked wheel and an ATS 1.0 housing. Lost 1-2 lbs of boost, can't notice a difference there. The egt's are lower and the turbo screams. No surge. I would do the same thing again.

 

I didn't see a huge drop in boost at WOT but at lower RPM's it looks like I lost some and EGT's are alittle higher. A nice tuner ( other then my superchip ) might cure that though. And you gotta love the sound....

 

If you want to know what a WW sounds like, here is a recording that I made about 4 years ago now, pulling 24k GVW up a hill in N. Utah.
It cured my surge too for all practical purposes.
I can MAKE it surge, but the EGT very quickly goes to 1500 degrees.
So yes it won't cure the surge, but it is very hard to push it outside of it's operating range.

http://home.comcast.net/~kwikkordead/Wicked_Wheel.mp3

 

I just put my WW in a couple of weeks ago. So far, it's cured the surge issue (and I've tried, ). Definitely more turbo whine!

Caveat: I've not pulled a load with it yet, just done the PO'd rocket launch on uphill on-ramps in 80E.

Before, I could get it to surge empty if I tried (and not all that hard). When it surged loaded, I just feathered the throttle and dealt with the power reduction. I've not noticed any loss of boost, but if there is then it's more than made up for by the fact that I dont have to ease off the "go" pedal.

 

No such thing as too much whistle...

More usable boost beats more unusable boost any day of the week.