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Old 10-11-2009, 01:10 PM
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If you haven't done it allready , remove the oil pan and see if you can find what's locking the engine . Could be a broken or bent piston rod . broken crank or rod bearing ,ect. It doesen't take much to lock a engine sometimes . Being it made a loud noise and stopped ,I would suspect internal engine damaged has locked it up . You have went this far so a litle extra work might just find something and it might save you from removing the trans. or damaging the trany by pulling the T C out of it .
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thats what we are doing now removal of oil pan.
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thats what we are doing now removal of oil pan.
A pushrod coming loose could lock engine , you could spot that pretty easy with valve cover removol .
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heads off and nothing there, crank still wont turn.
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Timing chain break? That would throw the valves out of sync with the crank and "lock" things up.

I'd pull the trans with the engine so you can work on it out in the open. You've got lots of room to spare - I've pulled 3 or 4 302s from 82-92 trucks.

Drop the driveshaft, put the trans in neutral and try turning the engine over. With the heads off and nothing amiss there, the problem's likely in the bottom end - or timing gear.
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heads off and nothing there, crank still wont turn.
Did you drop the pan ? take the rod bearing caps of and shove all of the pistons to the top . I dont think you will need to remove them, that should get any load of the crank so it will turn , if you have removed the starter so you know it's not jamed in to the flywheel . good luck
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I hope you have located your problem and I dont want to bring you anymore disapointing news , but it would be best if you can crank the engine to remove the bolts . If you pull the T C out of the trans. attached to engine , I don't believe you can remove the bolts until you crank the engine , do to not being able to get a wrench in there . So you will be out a new housing plate , flywheel flexplate , and new T C . I hope I'm wrong .
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If you are going to pull just the engine or engine and TC, be sure to jack or block front of tranny at slight upwards angle and watch gap between engine and bellhousing as it come out. Be sure it stays parallel until the engine is free of the tranny so you don't put undo stress on input shaft. If it were mine I'd pull engine and tranny as unit, much easier that way.
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i had a 87 ford van blow had to take timing cover off and take chain off cam was broke in three pieces took out center of block crank turned with clunking had to put pic at photo bucket of c notch http://s572.photobucket.com/albums/ss170/rbig1/
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i had a 87 ford van blow had to take timing cover off and take chain off cam was broke in three pieces took out center of block crank turned with clunking had to put pic at photo bucket of c notch Pictures by rbig1 - Photobucket
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Well the crank was cracked!! Yes cracked in two! The second cap from the rear of the block also cracked? We also pulled the motor out with the T>C on it. It was really no big deal. Now to put in the replacment motor. Thanks TO all!!!
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Well the crank was cracked!! Yes cracked in two! The second cap from the rear of the block also cracked? We also pulled the motor out with the T>C on it. It was really no big deal. Now to put in the replacment motor. Thanks TO all!!!
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Well the crank was cracked!! Yes cracked in two! The second cap from the rear of the block also cracked? We also pulled the motor out with the T>C on it. It was really no big deal. Now to put in the replacment motor. Thanks TO all!!!
Sorry to hear that , but suspected as much that's the reason I sugested to drop the pan . I new it sounded like bottem end problem . AS you were advised earler , be sure to index the T C in trans. I have problems there as it's easy not to get it far enough in . It will lock engine , could damage pump and I have known of guys breaking the trans. housing when they tighten the housing to engine bolts . I suggest you replace the trans. front seal as it could have got damaged as the T C came out and it's easy to do now. good luck . JIM
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Ok guys the saga still going! We replaced the trans seal. Installed the motor back in the tuck but cant turn the motor to get to the TC bolts! What the H@$L!! Any info here or tips would be good. If we lossen the bellhouosing bolts, then it turns? When i put my c6 on my 351c i had no problems! It just bolted up! This is a lot more harder just for the fact its all in the truck. Thanks!!
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