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Old 10-10-2009, 03:32 PM
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Anyone have power steering pictures?

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. I have a buddy (no, not me) who has a 76 F250. His power steering system was shot. I tried to talk him into doing a conversion but he declined and bought himself a new remanufactured Pump, Control valve, Cylinder and 4 new hoses from Redhead Steering Gears, in Seattle. He put it all together himself and didn't have power steering when he was done. He brought it to me to see if I could fix it. I first attempted to bleed it thinking maybe it just had air in the system. I found he had the power and return lines reversed. Figured that was the problem. After flushing 2 gallons of fluid through it I could only get it to "power" steer to the left but no power to the right. I told him his valve must not be any good, figuring it was only channeling power one direction. He returned it and got a replacement. I installed it and now it still only power steers to the left and not to the right!! What could be the problem? To be honest I'm not sure if the 4 hoses are in the right ports on the valve. All the ports are the same size, but have different adapters, installed by my buddy, for the different hoses fittings. But these adapters could go in any of the ports on the valve. I don't know if the hoses are connected right. Anyone able to help me know if the hoses are connected right? or what else could possibly be the problem? Hoping someone has pictures of their steering valve and can tell me which hose goes where. Thanks.
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here are some pics from an old system I had
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Looking at the Control Valve (C/V) with the ball stud to the Pitman Arm on the left, the ball joint to the right.

The two hoses from the C/V to the ram cylinder go into the rear holes.

The P/S return hose to the right front. The P/S pressure hose to the left front.
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AAAh, that could be my problem. I have the two ports closest to the tire as my pressure and return and the two ports closest to the frame going to the cylinder. That would make one of the cylinder hoses correct (giving me power one way), my pressure line is right but the return and other cylnder hose needs to be switched. I'll give it a try and post back,

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Actually I think our "front" and "rear" lefts and rights are getting confused. If you look at the pictures posted by LOSTINFORDS, I have the two hoses closest to the tire (the cleaner hoses in the pic) as my pressure and return (pressure towards the bumper, return towards the axle). Is this right? The two hoses in the pic closest to the frame (dirty hoses) go to the cylinder, right? Not sure which cylinder hose goes to which port though. Do you think if the hoses are all hooked up correctly, I could have the "power one direction" problem if the Cylinder was bad? Pulling my hair out!!
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Looking at the Control Valve (C/V) with the ball stud to the Pitman Arm on the left, the ball joint to the right.

The two hoses from the C/V to the ram cylinder go into the rear holes.

The P/S return hose to the right front. The P/S pressure hose to the left front.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa: I shoulda listed the source of the above info.

Info taken from lookin' at the illustration of the Bendix P/S Control Valve in the 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog.

Cannot scan and post, catalog is on microfiche.
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Good call on the "meaculpa3x" Most people have no clue what it means

here's what I have...

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The two easily seen hoses are pressure (left hose) and return (right hose)
The two hoses not easily seen, nearest the frame, are going to the cylinder but I'm not sure if they are correct or reversed. I assume they are OK since I have power steering one way, but I don't know why I don't have power the other way. In fact there seems to be resistance, more than just no power assist, when I turn right. Like I'm fighting against the power assist. I wish my buddy would have just done a conversion. That would have been less of a headache I think.
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Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grevious fault.

The above pic looks just like what the illustration in the parts catalog shows.

FTE member jermafenser has this catalog on a CD, can scan and post pics.

Illustration Section 36 / Page 11 / Pic shows both Garrison & Bendix C/V's

You have BENDIX P/S = 1974 F250 4WD from T80,001 / All 1975/77 F250 4WD / All High Boys.
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I have the same problem, ever figure it out? Assist to the right nothing to the left. ll my stuff is "new". Just want some kind of power assist! LOL
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I never figured it out but I just saw another exact same truck the other day and looked at the steering setup and noticed the pitman arm looked different. It was slightly angled or bent. The one on my buddies truck is totally straight. that was one of my original ideas, it looked like the stud coming out of the valve and attaching to the pitman arm was at an angle. I thought if the pitman arm have a little bend or angle to it then the stud in the valve would be more centered. I thought the valve might be in a premanent turn situation due to the angle the stud was always in. If the pitman arm had a bend to it then it wouldn't be preloaded to turn left. know what I mean? But I haven't gotten my buddies truck back to look into that yet. But I bet that the deal.
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Sure sounds like there is air in the cylinder. How did you bleed the cylinder ? If you just bolt it on and hook it up chances are against it ever bleeding out on it's own.
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I turned the wheel back and forth from lock to lock. I also changed out the lines and it bleed the whole time i changed the hoses. After I again went side to side. I cant figure it out, I have it set up like the pic above. Everything is "new or rebuilt on the system. Should have just upgarded to the 78 box. I just hated to cut the frame ect, but the longer I mess with this I find my mind wandering back to the flaming rachet. Once you cut it is never original and it cant be changed back again. I liked the idea of keeping it as stock looking as possable. My grampa bought it new in 73 and now I have it.
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Where can I get one of those catalogs on CD? I would LOVE to have exploded views and parts numbers like that for my truck.
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It's available online. Try ebay motors. Called 1973-79 Ford 100-500 Truck &Van Master Parts Catalog CD. I just ordered one on ebay for $24.95 free shipping. Here is the link.

1973-79 Ford 100-500 Truck Van Master Parts Catalog CD, buy and sell Parts Accessories on eBay Motors

CANT WAIT for mine to come!!!
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