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Old 01-07-2010, 11:38 AM
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There are over 70 complaints on the NHTSA database for this problem on the 2005 f-150 alone. Fords approach to customer relations continues to amaze me.

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I just used 1 1/2 wide blue painters tape to hold the window up. Granted I used a lot but I just went from one side on the glass over the frame to the other side on the glass. I did this in about 6 spots and had no problem. Easy job just scary the first time.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:10 AM
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I was on a automotive troubleshooting site a little while ago that had over 175 complaints about this issue on '04 F150s alone! Many of them had multiple incidents with their trucks windows. Most of the people had been stone-walled by FMC at all levels and were pretty hostile.

Is this problem only related to the power windows?
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:16 AM
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There is a similar problem with comparable defect complaints on the windshield wiper motor. In that case Ford issued a recall for the 2006 year only. However, it seems to be a common problem on other years including the 2005. My 2005 wiper motor went bad recently. When I took it apart it was my opinion that the motor failed due to high resistance in the wiper linkage joints. There are basically ball joint type bearings in the linkage. The joint that was connected to the motor drive arm was practically seized. I was able to clean it out and relube it but it is not rebuild able. Eventually I think the motor will fail again, once the joint tightens up again from moisture.

I think the problem with the window regulator is similar. High friction and resistance causes the premature failure of the driving components.

To anyone who is replacing the window regulator; I would recommend lubricating all of the pulleys, slides and friction points for the window. There is also a alignment procedure that should be done if you are replacing the regulator.

The other common problem is that Ford quality sucks these days, plain and simple. And I am a ford guy my whole life. I've had three mustangs, three trucks and a sedan. But I'm done.
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There is a similar problem with comparable defect complaints on the windshield wiper motor. In that case Ford issued a recall for the 2006 year only. However, it seems to be a common problem on other years including the 2005. My 2005 wiper motor went bad recently. When I took it apart it was my opinion that the motor failed due to high resistance in the wiper linkage joints. There are basically ball joint type bearings in the linkage. The joint that was connected to the motor drive arm was practically seized. I was able to clean it out and relube it but it is not rebuild able. Eventually I think the motor will fail again, once the joint tightens up again from moisture.

I think the problem with the window regulator is similar. High friction and resistance causes the premature failure of the driving components.

To anyone who is replacing the window regulator; I would recommend lubricating all of the pulleys, slides and friction points for the window. There is also a alignment procedure that should be done if you are replacing the regulator.

The other common problem is that Ford quality sucks these days, plain and simple. And I am a ford guy my whole life. I've had three mustangs, three trucks and a sedan. But I'm done.
I agree with your diagnosis. I have replaced the wiper motor on our 94 F150 and the bearings were dried out on it also causing high friction. On the 2005 F150 for the window it is a weak design.


However there is something you can do to make it last longer. When moving the window up or down and the express up/down is used stop before it fully bottoms or tops out. Don't let it hit the mechanical stop. When the motor is running full speed it is at maximum power and this really stresses the plastic parts in the regulator. Stop the window just before it hits the full up/down and just tap the power button to close it. This will help quite a bit on the life.

As for Ford stand behind this, don't hold your breath waiting.

The only real option is to report the information to NTSB as a safety issue.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:46 AM
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I had a Chrysler 300M that had 11 windows motors replace in the 2 years I owned the POS. Yes I said 11 and not I dont open and closed the windows everyday 50 times a day. They would just go out. Some when they were up and sometime when they were down or the way or down. Then the dealer would scatch the paint taking the door panel off. O what fun that was. Did I tell you the horns went out the first 30 days on ownership? Yes the horns. It turn 6 months for them to redesign the horn to face backwards. See when they face fowards the first puddle you drove through it killed them.
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Our '96 Explorer 5.0 has over 211,000 miles and hasn't had any problems except the lower idler pully bearing went out at about 170K, the driver's seatback air bladder won't hold air anymore, and the subwoofer died. Only routine maintenance and ALL the electrical gadgets still work... It must have slipped through malfunction installation station when it was built!
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replace manual with electric??

is it possible/reasonable to replace a manual window control with an electric motor on a 06 F250?
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Does anyone know much about the hardware on these? My new OEM part had the four (4) bolts to attach the regulator to the door; however, there is 1 single screw that goes thru the door directly into the motor and I have misplaced it. It has a 10mm head on it and had a washer, too. I can't find anyone who knows what I am talking about. Looking to pick one up somewhere. Everything works great, but there is some rattle, in particular when closing the door.

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