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Old 01-11-2010, 06:53 AM
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Carl - The argent paint as I understand was used on Ford products for many years and can still be purchased at any Ford dealer. That or do a thread search to find past discussion of it. I'm sure the paint code will be in an old thread.

Ron - Pulling wheel centers to remount in tubeless rims can and has been done. Several skilled engineers/machinists here have tried it for their own trucks but I've not heard followups to tell us whether they were happy with the results. Remember that doing this for yourself not only puts you at risk but others on the road too if your workmanship isn't great.

There are also custom wheel companies that do this, and have insurance. The best known is Stockton Wheel but I'd read the below HAMB thread before going to them. Cover your ears. Another is Wheel Vintiques in California. You might do a thread search on the HAMB about them. I don't remember any horror stories being shared about them. Another source is American Wheel Specialist in Pasco, WA. I'll add a couple threads about them from our past discussions. They are a wholesaler for the huge Les Schwab chain of tire shops on west coast. Stu

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Well I just purchased a 51 F-3 today, I wasn't so sure I should go for it but then he had lots of new parts etc from Macs auto parts that were going with it, and I can use all of them on my F6 or F1 so I bought it.

Unfortunatly the body is not in all that great of shape, but partially salvagable.. drivetrain is good though
Carlh you needed a tailgate but not sure this one is what you want or not?? I'll post up some pictures of it soon. also I'm still working on the owners of other 8' box trailer I found but I'm thinking they want it to sit in the field for a few more years before they let it go???


Oh the wheels on this F-3 have been swapped out and the guy has 16" tires on it now, they look pretty good too (tread and all), I'll post up some pictures of those too as I'm not sure of there origin but maybe someone can use them?

"gibbuilds John" this 51 f-3 has the spare tire mounted on the drivers side bedside like you mentioned, I'll get some pictures of it for you, Since I didn't get a real good look at how it attaches.


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Old 01-13-2010, 09:21 AM
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here it is,
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maybe I will be able to use the tires on my F-1 with my 16" wheels?? but not sure if the 8 lug 16's are wider than my 5 on 5 1/2 F1 16's?
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Josh - Great looking '51. The stock F-2 16" rims were 6" wide while your F-1s were likely 4.5" wide. So depending on the tire sizes they may or may not work on the F-1. Judging by the outside hub cap nubs, the wheel on the right front is not a stock F-2 rim. Stu
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HI Josh,

Just a few notes - I'm late getting on this thread. First here is a link to Earls World with the paint codes for Argent. The Ford Part number (if they haven't changed it) is M-935G. The PPG paint code number is 8568.

http://www.clubfte.com/users/earl/Re...aterial_2.html

So Josh - great score on the new truck. Just a heads up about a couple things. First it's an "Extra Cab" model. Note the stainless windshield trim and holes for the extra hood spears. I don't know how many of the options are left on the truck but they are getting hard to find if you want to find any , and like gold to sell. Particularly stupid things like the drivers side door latch with the provisions for an exterior lock.

Also, if the sheet metal on the bed is anywhere close to decent, people are alweays looking for the raised side "8ft Express Beds" to replace there own. This one looks to be in VERY good shape! Body doesn't look bad at all (what does th eother side look like?) Also interesting is it has a 48-50 front bumper (actually might be a painted 53-56 as well - not sure) but it's not the channeled 51/52 bumper. And it appears to have the gig flat back towing bumper (I see the brace)

What I'm trying to say is I think your new truck is worth quite a bit more than you are giving it credit for. Take some more pics - drivers side, interior, and bed/back and I'll see what I can find!

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Thanks Julie,
Yes I was thinking about the discussion fairly recently on here concerning these “extra cabs” or “5 star cabs” as I like to call them but now I’m not sure? Lol
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Anyway, yep this one has some good points like the dome light, locking glove box, extra drivers side door lock, chrome (edit "bright metal" ) windshield trim, and it does have the hood trim (just not attached) The seat has been newly redone, steering wheel looks like almost new, has a jack, (not sure if original) and the thumb screw to hold it down, cab has some of the typical rusting but not out of control yet. The box bed sides are fixable but probably not the header panel, tailgate? Maybe fixable too?
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Oh and the Engine, flathead v8 was recently rebuilt but don’t have details on the rebuild. It was this guys dad’s daily driver up until he died a year or 2 ago. Hence all of the extra parts he was buying and slowly installing.
Also its been converted to 12 volts, but did not look at how the instruments were hooked up?? The oil pressure gauge when started up went all the way to the high end of the gage so I wonder what’s going on there????
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It does look pretty nice in the picture, that’s what I like about pictures is they always look much better J I have seen worse but I guess I’m just holding out until I can find that perfect truck!! Ya right. That will never happen…. But it won’t keep me from keeping on looking on J
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The one thing that I find odd about this truck is the fact that it does not have the magic air heater and associated ducting etc. In fact the knockout for the fresh air duct is still in place. It has a heater in it but looks like something you would buy at walmart?? So maybe you could get a “Extra cab” truck less the heater??? Hmmm
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No original radio either, it has a recently installed new radio from Macs auto parts installed. Blah!
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Going to go bring it home here in a couple hours, will post more pics/details later.
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I think you're looking for a part that never came stock on a 48-52 pickup. It was common on the pre 48 tonners I know. A lot of owners pulled their spare from under the bed and mounted it on the side of the 48 to 52s, but don't think Ford designed it that way during the Bonus Built era. Most that you see have an indent in the fender where the prior owner either bashed it in or cut out the fender and flipped/welded in the piece upside down to yield the indent. I'm pretty sure the side mount became an option again sometime during the 53-56 era. One of the guys that know them best can jump in on that.
One of the previous owners of my truck did just what you described. Punched in the fender and welded a bracket to the side of the bed. I've tried to attach pictures - hope it work

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Here's a few more pictures, I'll pull the spare tire off here soon so I can get better pictures of the entire spare tire mount. it actually looks pretty good.

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plus some tailgate shots, I didn't hardly notice the small angle iron welded on each edge of the gate but its there.

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also the other pictures here if anyone wanted to see more?
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btw did anyone notice my next 51 in the background??? it has a utility bed on it and I think its an F-3 as well? I've seen it up close years ago but can't remember now... still no MH bonus builts, guess I'll just keep looking! Maybe I'll find a Ranger!
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Nice enough truck, Josh!

I didn't realize F-2's had full-floater rear ends? Seems like overkill.
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Josh,
Nice looking truck, and the one in the background looks interesting.
The more I watch and listen on the forum the more I learn.
If Carlh is not interested in the tailgate I would be if it fits a 49.
Still looking for a set of brake shoes & anchor pin plate for the rear end. Anyone know someone parting one out?

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this one has some good points like the dome light, locking glove box, extra drivers side door lock, chrome (edit "bright metal" ) windshield trim, and it does have the hood trim (just not attached)

Those are the rest of the parts of the deluxe, or "extra" option package.

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The one thing that I find odd about this truck is the fact that it does not have the magic air heater and associated ducting etc. In fact the knockout for the fresh air duct is still in place. It has a heater in it but looks like something you would buy at walmart?? So maybe you could get a “Extra cab” truck less the heater???

The heater, either the Magic Aire or standard, was a separate option from the "extra" package.

So, Josh, what are your plans for the truck? Are you planning to part it out, or restore it?
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Steve, do you need the 14" brakes?? I have those 12" ones from a 52, I am not sure what's on this 51? I'll take a look and let you know.
I'll also let you know if the tailgate becomes available.

52 Merc, I guess I didn't realize the heaters were an option? thanks for the info. I always just figured the "extra" cab trucks came with them..
I guess I'm parting it out... theres a few things I need and will use on my 52 F6 as well as my 51 F-1 almost feel guilty though, as it runs/drives but I can't take on any more projects. I already have too many

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Josh - One of my trucks is a standard "5 Star" cab that also has a Magic Air heater. So I agree that it was a separate option. As for having too many projects, I've got a clear titled '51 parts truck that I hauled home years ago that is so nice I've never had the heart to start robbing parts off of it. So if I live long enough it'll get put back on the road too. Stu
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Yes, I would be interested in Josh's tailgate if he is interested in selling it. Let me know either on this list or offline, Josh. chansonjag@aol.com

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The shoes I need are14 in
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